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  1. peaks

    Why I prefer Wifi 5 routers over 6/6E! Fast, cheap and fun

    Because cost difference matters and performance is measured in throughput. It’s all measurable and can be compared apples to apples. That’s what SNB charts are all about.
  2. peaks

    Why I prefer Wifi 5 routers over 6/6E! Fast, cheap and fun

    That’s all it took? A dude? Too bad but ok.
  3. peaks

    Why I prefer Wifi 5 routers over 6/6E! Fast, cheap and fun

    No comparison? All relative? Dude it’s easy to compare, and the cost difference is absolute. But I hear you—you like fancier and newer gear and you have enormous respect for your local 5ghz radio spectrum. Cool cool! Here’s hoping it helps with getting into heaven, or taxes, or something...
  4. peaks

    Why I prefer Wifi 5 routers over 6/6E! Fast, cheap and fun

    I'm usually within 10 ft of an AP, 20 ft at most. Anywhere I would use my computer is close to an AP. Thats the real benefit of multiple 5ghz APs IMO. And since they are all on diff channels I don't have to worry about co-chan interference as I drift away from the AP. Sitting in my yard right...
  5. peaks

    Why I prefer Wifi 5 routers over 6/6E! Fast, cheap and fun

    Hi Tim! Thanks again for bringing back full SNB! Your site has been an amazing resource for me for a very long time. I was worried when reviews tapered as there is no way to trust any other reviewers! I will be following your 6E reviews closely and upgrading when it's clearly matured according...
  6. peaks

    Why I prefer Wifi 5 routers over 6/6E! Fast, cheap and fun

    No I don't. You can see ping time is 13ms on the speed test above; it ranges from 6-15ms generally and a few spots, like my back stairs where I shouldn't be using my phone anyway :) , it goes up a little higher. One of the main benefits of running on clear 80MHz channels is that there is no...
  7. peaks

    Why I prefer Wifi 5 routers over 6/6E! Fast, cheap and fun

    W It's connected by GigE to the main switch and can max out on a wired connection around 750-800mbit, filling the pipe for all intents. without a doubt it is an ancient dinosaur. But yes the 6TB made it faster and bigger, and I described the streams not to claim enormous throughput from a 2009...
  8. peaks

    Why I prefer Wifi 5 routers over 6/6E! Fast, cheap and fun

    One last old gear shoutout: I run a 2009 gen1 Apple Time Machine as my NAS. It has an upgraded 6TB drive and a new power supply in 2019. I can easily stream 2 4k streams and a bunch of HD streams from it wirelessly from anywhere on the property at the same time. I also read endless mixed reviews...
  9. peaks

    Why I prefer Wifi 5 routers over 6/6E! Fast, cheap and fun

    A couple more visuals for everyone. I am maxed out as you can see; siting on my sofa my network is showing 489mb of bandwidth and currently pulling 457mb from spectrum, max varies a bit during the day due to spectrum or my family members streaming. If I went to Gigabit internet I would indeed...
  10. peaks

    Why I prefer Wifi 5 routers over 6/6E! Fast, cheap and fun

    In truth, cost is absolute not relative. It’s a number which you can share. But of course I am aware how much Cisco gear costs, as even back when I had Oracle running on Sun Microsystems servers we were running all Cisco networks. $$$ the whole point of this thread and my setup is that it’s...
  11. peaks

    Why I prefer Wifi 5 routers over 6/6E! Fast, cheap and fun

    POE+ uses a lot of watts iirc. All my routers are energy sippers. Yes, there’s a 20% loss on AC/DC conversion but the same would be true for POE+ power supplies. Even if they are 90% efficient, we are talking a handful of watts diff max. And first I’d have to buy a new (well, used) POE+ Switch...
  12. peaks

    Why I prefer Wifi 5 routers over 6/6E! Fast, cheap and fun

    Ah interesting. In your work environment you have intentionally handicapped the network (yes I do know why) to 40mhz (bad for bandwidth comparisons) and at home you use 4x dual band. Since you didn’t specify and most dual band APs are 2.4+5, it sounds like you have 4 2.4 networks? Sounds like...
  13. peaks

    Why I prefer Wifi 5 routers over 6/6E! Fast, cheap and fun

    I should add that had Wave 2 been around when I got this gear I would have gone that way. But it wasn’t, and I’m ok with the throughput I get for me and my 2 other family members. We are usually each on our own zero interference 80Mhz channel, even in the same room. Blissful!
  14. peaks

    Why I prefer Wifi 5 routers over 6/6E! Fast, cheap and fun

    I changed the title to remove bias and better reflect my intent.
  15. peaks

    Why I prefer Wifi 5 routers over 6/6E! Fast, cheap and fun

    Unsafe and probably awful mileage. Ugly too. I don’t see the comparison. Really, you all seem very biased toward the new tech, but I see bandwidth as the be all/ end all for my needs and…I’m at 470mb over 7000sf with 7-9 year old gear. We’re I to upgrade…nothing would change but my wallet would...
  16. peaks

    Why I prefer Wifi 5 routers over 6/6E! Fast, cheap and fun

    I’ve accumulated lots of smart devices over the years, but it mostly runs on 2.4N so…yeah don’t need any new tech there. I get about 35mbit per antenna in 2.4. Fine. Good point! But since it’s an internal AP behind a firewall, and it delivers eg 400mbit on channel 100…why toss it? Love the...
  17. peaks

    Why I prefer Wifi 5 routers over 6/6E! Fast, cheap and fun

    This is true. But I read reviews and don’t see better performance. I have scanned from all the APs. Same basic information. ok but biased? I LOVE wifi just like y’all. Every time I read a review of new 6/6E gear on Amazon, the complaints are endless. And the happy people talk about...
  18. peaks

    Why I prefer Wifi 5 routers over 6/6E! Fast, cheap and fun

    I will read those posts, haven’t had a chance but enjoying the back n forth. I hear you about the overall efficiency, probably using a few extra dozen watts. Again, because I get great speeds everywhere I just don’t see why I would need to upgrade? Central management ok—I ran corp IT for a...
  19. peaks

    Why I prefer Wifi 5 routers over 6/6E! Fast, cheap and fun

    the scan I posted was in my front yard which doesn’t have other 36 activity rn but the back yard has a lot—a few neighbors have horrible mesh networks blasting huge numbers of identically named networks on 36 and 149. If I run those outside my bandwidth drops by at least 50%. I use 36/149...
  20. peaks

    Why I prefer Wifi 5 routers over 6/6E! Fast, cheap and fun

    Ok guys so, how would doing what you say improve my experience? I don’t even need to pay attention to my network. I only upgraded to 400mbit last month and instantly had most of it available everywhere. Not sure how or why wifi 6 would improve those numbers. I am shedding a tear for my...
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