2x 48 Gigabit Switch

[J L]

I want to replace my old HP-Switch with two 48 Gigabit Port Switches. They should fulfill the following requirements

48 Port Gigbit Cooper (per Switch)
2 SFP (Link Aggregation between the switches)

POE+ (with 30W)(only one Switch)
iPv4 VLAN
- MAC Based VLAN
- IEEE802.1Q Tag-based VLAN
- IEEE802.1v VLAN
iPv6 VLAN (optional)
Spanning Tree Protokoll
Link Aggregation after IEEE 802.3ad with LACP
Access Control Lists​

I want to spend max. 1000$ for the non POE switch. The POE one can be more expanse, around 1300$.

I found the new Linksys LGS552 which is in my price range. What do you think about it. Do you have any other recommendations?

THX

J L

 

[LoneWolf]

Have you taken a look at the Cisco SG300-52P ? I think you'll find it's a bit more robust.

Netgear's M4100-50G PoE+ should probably do what you want as well, but I think the Cisco is a better value in a lot of ways.

 

[J L]

I also looked at him. The advantage of the Linksys is that he has 2 SFP+ (10GbE) Ports which are normally extrem expansiv. Is it possible to add SFP+ Ports to the Cisco?

 

[LoneWolf]

Respectfully, if you plan on doing ten gigabit at any point, IMO Linksys is not the switch brand for you. At that point, I'd be wanting Cisco Catalyst, or Dell's N2000/N3000 line, which are significantly more expensive.

Evaluate how likely it truly is that you'll do ten gig ethernet. You'd need the following:

1) Internet with -- well, there isn't any. Google Fiber isn't that fast.
2) Servers with ten gigabit traffic. If you only have a network with two switches, I can't see how you'll get there. I ran buildings with three hundred ports of traffic on a combination of 10/100 Layer 2 managed (with gig uplink) and gig Layer 2 with gig uplink switches. We're talking fifty phones, fifty IP cameras, forty PoE access points, and two servers with probably forty wired PC clients, and at any given time, several hundred wireless clients. Uplinks were not an issue, and if they are for you, then you either need more expensive switches or bandwidth control at the head end via access control lists or firewall rules.

 

[azazel1024]

Respectfully, if you plan on doing ten gigabit at any point, IMO Linksys is not the switch brand for you. At that point, I'd be wanting Cisco Catalyst, or Dell's N2000/N3000 line, which are significantly more expensive.

Evaluate how likely it truly is that you'll do ten gig ethernet. You'd need the following:

1) Internet with -- well, there isn't any. Google Fiber isn't that fast.
2) Servers with ten gigabit traffic. If you only have a network with two switches, I can't see how you'll get there. I ran buildings with three hundred ports of traffic on a combination of 10/100 Layer 2 managed (with gig uplink) and gig Layer 2 with gig uplink switches. We're talking fifty phones, fifty IP cameras, forty PoE access points, and two servers with probably forty wired PC clients, and at any given time, several hundred wireless clients. Uplinks were not an issue, and if they are for you, then you either need more expensive switches or bandwidth control at the head end via access control lists or firewall rules.

I agree completely. Unless you have very high demands on your network (like data center, or maybe something like video production studio, engineering firm, etc) 100Mbps per client is likely overkill. I don't do the networking stuff where I am, but we have a 100Mbps connection to each machine, either fiber or wired. Granted it is Cat6 in the walls (except the one building where it is fiber), but the edge switches are ALL 10/100 48 port switches with gigabit uplink ports to gigabit core switches. Only place with have 10GbE deployed is in our actual network operations/data center (and actually I think we have a mix of infiniband and 40GbE in there too for some of the large iron (some of our data bases are in the high hundreds of terabyte range)).

Only in exceptional circumstances is 100Mbps a limitation for "office work" and even code development/deployment and stuff. I want a lot better than that at home, but I throw around multigigabyte files often. I don't do that at work. It might be a 2-10MB word document, or power point, or email attachment or something. A "big transfer" might be a few hundred megabytes backing up things a few times a year...which takes a couple of minutes maybe.

PS To clarify, IIRC our structure is 48 port 10/100 switches with 4 gigabit uplink ports to 48 port gigabit switches with 2 (it might be 4) 10GbE uplink ports each to a small number of some port count 10GbE core switches.

There is some amount of redundancy on switches. I THINK that it is 2 uplink ports to one 1GbE switch and 2 to a second. Then each GbE switch is hooked in to two different 10GbE switches. I am assuming there is some amount of redundancy between the 10GbE switches in interlinking, but I am really not sure. It is an organization of around 4,000 people, plus machines, etc is probably on the order of 8,000 devices (no VOIP for us! Good old POTS PBX)

 

[htismaqe]

1) Internet with -- well, there isn't any. Google Fiber isn't that fast.

There's a few companies out there in the high-end enterprise space using 10Gbit IP connections.

2) Servers with ten gigabit traffic. If you only have a network with two switches, I can't see how you'll get there. I ran buildings with three hundred ports of traffic on a combination of 10/100 Layer 2 managed (with gig uplink) and gig Layer 2 with gig uplink switches. We're talking fifty phones, fifty IP cameras, forty PoE access points, and two servers with probably forty wired PC clients, and at any given time, several hundred wireless clients. Uplinks were not an issue, and if they are for you, then you either need more expensive switches or bandwidth control at the head end via access control lists or firewall rules.

Those companies I mentioned previously are running tens of thousands of internal employes and MILLIONS of B2C customers over those 10Gbit links, just to give you an idea of scale.

But yes, you're absolutely correct on choice of switches.

Can't go wrong with Cisco or Juniper, IMO. I actually really like the EX line of switches...

EDIT: Another thought since the OP has a budget. Adtran makes very dependable ethernet switches. The NetVanta 1600-series has 48 ports with POE and is very affordable for what would really be an enterprise-class switch.

 

[LoneWolf]

htismage, I know you're playing devil's advocate here, but ask yourself --if someone is coming here (a site named "small"netbuilder) for advice on 48-port switches, of which they plan to buy two: How likely is it they have a 10Gbe link to the Internet, and how likely is it that they have a backbone that would utilize 10Gbe internally?

Any place I know that does would have someone who has enough experience to get the products (be it Cisco, Juniper, Dell, Extreme Networks, etc.) they need, or to work with their sales rep to get them, and they would be spending well over a grand per switch; probably more like $2,500-$5,000 each, depending on what their needs were (Layer 2, Layer 3) or spending even more by going with blade switches.

I wasn't saying someone like Google didn't have this. I was saying the average business user wanting two 48-port switches didn't have this, even if they lived in Kansas and were buying Google Fiber.

 

[htismaqe]

htismage, I know you're playing devil's advocate here, but ask yourself --if someone is coming here (a site named "small"netbuilder) for advice on 48-port switches, of which they plan to buy two: How likely is it they have a 10Gbe link to the Internet, and how likely is it that they have a backbone that would utilize 10Gbe internally?

I wasn't suggesting they would. I was just letting you know since you said "there aren't any" that there are.

I wasn't saying someone like Google didn't have this. I was saying the average business user wanting two 48-port switches didn't have this, even if they lived in Kansas and were buying Google Fiber.

I misunderstood your comment.