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Hi,
I've recently upgraded to 100 mbps down and 10 mbps up internet connection (FTTH). speedtest shows around 90-100 mbps using ethernet. I have an RT-AC68U running .55 merlin in AP mode . i am able to get only 60 mbps on wireless (including 5ghz). I do the test in the same room with the AP. Are there any settings i can play with ? I am sure this kinda problems has been addressed before. So if you can point me in the right direction that'd be great.
 
U can see if this tuning guide helps - a lot of it might be applicable to the AC68: http://www.rickygao.com/tuning-the-asus-wireless-router-to-best-performance/

One question just out of curiosity: You mentioned you are getting 90-100 down, is that correct? What was the maximum downstream speed you've ever reached while testing it over Ethernet? I'm wondering because I also have a 100 down connection and I think only once or twice was I able to reach 98mbit/s, but that was it - most of the time the limit seemed to be around 95/96mbit per sec maximum. I wonder whether it is even technically possible to get 100 or even 99mbit/s on such a connection.
 
If you are getting close to 100Mb/s but not 100Mb/s on a 100Mb/s connection that means that the connection between the router and modem is 100Mb/s and there is nothing you can do if the modem's ethernet port is only 100Mb/s since even for gigabit you wont be able to transmit 1Gb/s through rather it would be around 980Mb/s maximum.

For wifi dont expect speed out of it. Manufacturers should change the ratings to what you actually get. The speeds also depend on the protocol used since for 5Ghz there is wireless A, N and AC whereas for 2.4 Ghz there is wireless b,g and n. Wireless A is the same speed as G and bandwidth drops quite significantly the further you go if you use 5 Ghz. I always think wifi as a convenience and not as a performance thing because even though i've actually gotten 90% of the rated AC wifi bandwidth but that was not through a practical or common use. If you have multiple different wifi clients expect slower speeds from wifi.
 
I would like to add that i have an edge router lite as the main router and the connection between the edge router and the Asus AP is 1gbps. I don't have a modem.
 
Hi,
I've recently upgraded to 100 mbps down and 10 mbps up internet connection (FTTH). speedtest shows around 90-100 mbps using ethernet. I have an RT-AC68U running .55 merlin in AP mode . i am able to get only 60 mbps on wireless (including 5ghz). I do the test in the same room with the AP. Are there any settings i can play with ? I am sure this kinda problems has been addressed before. So if you can point me in the right direction that'd be great.

Couple of possible things...make sure that WMM is enabled, and that you're using WPA2 security with AES encryption.

The other thing is that if you've recently had a change from your ISP, you could try forgetting the wireless networks on your clients and re-log them into the wireless. And/or reboot your clients. Also, wouldn't hurt to power-cycle your AP router if you haven't already.
 
When i had extreme 105 /20 actually getting 125/24 and had no issues getting this speed over wifi or wired. I hate to hear people saying you can never get full speeds over wifi simply not true i know many people that do every day. If your not then there is something else going on thats not right it may be in your control or maybe not in your control but it can and does work sorry if this is a little off topic.
 
Hi,
I've recently upgraded to 100 mbps down and 10 mbps up Internet connection (FTTH). speedtest shows around 90-100 mbps using Ethernet. I have an RT-AC68U running .55 merlin in AP mode . i am able to get only 60 mbps on wireless (including 5ghz). I do the test in the same room with the AP. Are there any settings i can play with ? I am sure this kinda problems has been addressed before. So if you can point me in the right direction that'd be great.

I also have an RT-68U (currently .56 beta1), and I've got a 100/20 on a 100MB Ethernet to GB Fiber backbone Internet connection and testing with speedtest.net easily get about 97mbs (My ISP's considered top end for throughput, all things considered), on wired side, and about 80+mbps on 5GHz wireless (with WPA2 Enterprise and a 4k key) on any given day. And this is after significant testing and tweaking that got me no more than back to the default settings with no improvements.

I live in a highly wifi congested metro area where there are about 20-30+ active SSID's around me at any given time of day. So the first and foremost problem that occurs that cause wireless performance problems is that WiFi was never designed to accommodate such highly congested channels. This coupled with the fact that the newer, higher speed N & AC protocols gain their higher speed by grouping or bonding channels. (This is what the x+y or 40/80 means in the wifi status flyover, it's the main channel + expansion channel). On 2.4GHz in N mode, this problem gets worse because with expansion channels considered, you only have effectively three channels to work with (1,6,11). In my environment there are no less than 4 if not 10+ SSID's stacked on each of these channels, with many ending up on 11 because auto-channel mechanisms cannot handle highly congested environments. They make one pass for a clear channel and stop when they hit the end of the list. So if a clear channel is not found, you could find your wireless stacked on the end channel with all your neighbors whos routers also could not find a clear channel, and then non-N capable routers sprinkled in the in between channels, which then renders the expansion channels occupied, thus never able to achieve more than single channel bandwidth. There are fewer 5Ghz SSID's but I've been seeing more and more pop up over time, and seeing more and more intermittent speed issues as well as they try to find an open channel.

Now herein lies the big rub that is most likely the cause of why people see slower or erratic wifi throughput vs. wired connection; the use of the expansion channel to achieve higher bandwidth is contingent on the channel being not busy. If the expansion channel is seen as busy, the protocol will automatically fall back to single channel mode & bandwidth. (There is no such thing as forcing the use of expansion channels, at least on 5GHz. Protocol spec requires fall back if expansion channel is busy)

This problem get's worse, at least on the RT-68U if you enable mac filtering as with mac filtering the router no longer will recognize traffic from other routers and thus breaks the auto channel mechanisms. This is one of the reasons for manually setting your channel. So with mac filtering enabled and control channel set for auto, and other routers near you also mac filtering so they can't see you, you can easily end up on a highly congested first channel. (For the RT-AC68U on 5GHz with mac filtering enabled, I see it stop at the first channel of 149 even though I can see other SSID's on the channel. But disable mac filtering and auto-channel then sees the channel is occupied.)

So before you look for tweak settings that can cause you to spend hours getting nowhere, I would start with evaluating your wifi environment for congestion problems that may be causing your signal to fall back to single channel mode, and or limiting available time on the channel. And keep in mind this isn't about what your devices see, but what your router sees. Use the Wireless -> Site Survey (with mac filtering off) to get an idea of what your router is seeing.

Another obvious indicator that you may be have expansion channel issues is to go to your routers System Log -> Wireless Log page and look at the rx/tx speeds while transferring data. If you don't see speeds higher than 54/60 on an AC connection, either your device doesn't support multiple AC streams (not all AC devices are created equal), or the more likely cause being the expansion channel is seen as busy by the router and it's falling back to using a single channel, thus the lower than expected bandwidth.

Anyway, the best results I've achieved is to manually set my control channel to a channel that is not only as clear as possible, but that the nearby expansion channels are also clear and yet I still get occasional speed degradation that always comes back to some neighbor landing on or near my channels.

Hope this helps.
 
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Just to point out that 100/20 isn't near it's limit - I'm on a 200/200 and in the speed test it showed I got about 190/160 or thereabouts. I didn't take too much notice of my settings.

Of course any of the application inspection features such as trend micro and the like will all use up CPU - so that's a good place to start if your CPU is getting maxed out (connect to it with ssh and run top while you're doing a speed test). Ultimately though, I've ended up using the router as an access point only and used a separate PC firewall to connect as per https://www.tech-knowhow.com/2015/08/howto-set-up-a-proper-firewall-with-ipfire-for-home-or-work/

One of the more noticable speed differences with running a PC firewall like this was actually the DNS lookup speed. Which makes the connection feel a lot snappier when you consider how many DNS lookups you do on a single page. Also choosing a fast local DNS.

Hope that helps!
 
I also want to add I have no problem getting full speed on my 150 mbps down / 10 mbps up connection with an RT-N66U (running John's latest fork).

It regularly measures 180 mpbs down 12 mbps up on WiFi (5GHz)

I did have to make sure I had hardware acceleration enabled - it was disabled as I had 'IPTraffic (per IP monitoring)' enabled

Note the router charts on this site have good bandwidth charts showing what each router can really do over WiFi
 
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Hi,
I've recently upgraded to 100 mbps down and 10 mbps up internet connection (FTTH). speedtest shows around 90-100 mbps using ethernet. I have an RT-AC68U running .55 merlin in AP mode . i am able to get only 60 mbps on wireless (including 5ghz). I do the test in the same room with the AP.
Hi,

I have a cabel modem connection with 150/15 MBit and full speed on wireless - if the client is fast enough.

Keep in mind that some smartphones and tablets have a much lower connection speed (e.g. 65 MBit).
Only the latest devices with 5 GHz and AC mode support can do up to 433 MBit (like my Google Nexus 5).

So you better check your clients first and then you start fiddling around with the wireless settings on your router! :rolleyes:

With kind regards
Joe :cool:
 

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