QOS Not working - Merlin 380.67

[Uthall]

Hi,

I have QOS enabled on my RT-AC68U with the following config:
- Adaptive QOS
- Automatic
- fq_codel - PPOE VDSL (I have the 68U bridged to another modem)
- Custom priority order, with Video and Audio Streaming at the highest priority
- FreshJR custom script installed
- Edit: Added a custom port into the script to classify it into "Streaming" category"

I have an XBOX One downloading an update, and a PC streaming video......however the XBOX Update (classified as gaming) is still getting all the bandwidth......?

Any reason why this would occur?

EDIT: Youtube videos seem to be classified OK, and do get bandwidth, its just my custom port with the issue.....

EDIT 2: Ok, port is now classified OK, but Gaming still seems to get priority over "Streaming", even with the "Media Streaming" QOS profile selected

 

[Vexira]

Edit qos priory manually with the custom setting.

 

[Uthall]

I have, it seems to make zero difference.......thats not right is it?

 

[Vexira]

So you set medal streaming at top priority, make sure you signature data base is up to date. Set you bandwidth manually, automatic bandwidth is for 10gb. So qos does not know you actual data and can't shape properly.

 

[Uthall]

Done all that.......

Netflix and Now TV appear to use the "Streaming" category and be prioritised OK when accessed from an Apple TV.

Some streaming apps on the ATV don't even show on the "QOS statistics" page, but QOS OK

Anything from a browser (except Netflix) seems to be categorised as "Web Surfing", including YouTube

Mt custom rule

${tc} filter add dev br0 protocol all prio 1 u32 match ip dport 25461 0xffff flowid ${Streaming}

categorised OK, but doesn't get priority......

I just don't thing this is going to work for me...........

 

[Vexira]

did you enable app analysis. Aslo which browser are you using and have you tried others.

 

[Uthall]

yep, app analysis is on.

tried chrome and edge...

 

[Vexira]

which firmware version are you running?
im tempted to suggest a factory reset at this point.

 

[Uthall]

Merlin 380.67

Yea me too, but you know what, I did that a few days ago.

I can factory again I guess.......maybe back to stock ASUS firmware first?

 

[Vexira]

Merlin 380.67

Yea me too, but you know what, I did that a few days ago.

I can factory again I guess.......maybe back to stock ASUS firmware first?

id try a reset first, just incase I'm on 380.67 alpha 1 or testing the beta then back to stock but its your choice in which order

 

[Uthall]

Ok, factory reset back to stock ASUS FW, then upgrade to latest Merlin 380.67

Working much better, Streaming still the highest priority, however it spits available bandwidth roughly 50/50 with Gaming, so still causes my streaming to buffer.

Do I need the custom script to fix this issue?

 

[Vexira]

It would come down to traffic detection and at that point only asus could fix it, I don't have the same issue as you on my 88u though I wanted to ask what connection type and speed you have, is it vdsl 2 and pppoe (login needed) or ipoe(mac based authentication) same as me.

 

[WBV]

Just to add my 2c ; I have found that bandwidth (with QoS on) depends on how you are connected to the router.
https://www.snbforums.com/threads/r...67-is-now-available.40191/page-14#post-338617

 

[Uthall]

Connection type is ADSL2, sitting at around 4Mb down and 1Mb up. Bridged over a Fritzbox 7270 modem using PPOE

Now the QOS is all upside down again, and streaming isn't getting any priority over gaming again....sigh!

When I factory reset today, I found that streaming using stock latest ASUS firmware plain didn't work at all......stream would peak to 4Mb then die to 50k and repeat over and over.

Going to merlin fixed the issue, but QOS is so flakey.

Is there another older release of ASUS or Merlin which is better suited to what im doing?

 

[Vexira]

not that i know of, if your having qos issues still id ask asus to update the sig data base.

 

[FreshJR]

Send a screenshot of QOS statistic pages when XBOX is downloading an update and you have a VIDEO streaming. Does not have to be a simultaneous transfer yet. Just keep it repeatable for when we do a simultaneous transfer.

I want to see the total transfer rates on shown on each catagory. Since if both sources had correct transfer rates identified, I do not see why it would not throttle those priorities accordingly.

The reason why I want to see the transfer rates is because currently with ASUS QOS, some HTTPS traffic bypasses QOS entirely. That's why in your post you said some traffic does not show up.

If the xbox download did not fully show up on QOS statistics due to https (or if only a part of it was identified) then that could be the reason why it wasn't being throttled correctly to make room for your streaming traffic.

Also, if its an issue with my script then please post only within my thread to not to clutter the forums. If you are going to make a post outside of my thread, then TURN OFF the modifications to rule out any possible bugs and deal fresh "out-of-box" issues.

I can confirm that my throttling/bandwidth sharing is working as expected on my router (even the custom rules).

If your transfers are properly identified, we have one more thing to check before I am out of ideas and we are out of luck.

If the xbox transfer was not properly identified, then there is a rule we can add to sort this https traffic into the QOS engine instead of ignoring it.

Also note: some https traffic, instead of bypassing QOS, is identified as net control which is the highest priority. If your xbox was then detected as net priority, then that could be another bandwidth shaping issue.

We will have a better picture with a screenshot. Make sure you are not using "Automatic Bandwidth" as that does not work. You need manually defined limits.​

@Vexira thanks for the help. Just to clarify App Analysis does not have to be on for QOS to work

 

[Vexira]

Send a screenshot of QOS statistic pages when XBOX is downloading an update and you have a VIDEO streaming. Does not have to be a simultaneous transfer yet. Just keep it repeatable for when we do a simultaneous transfer.

I want to see the total transfer rates on shown on each catagory. Since if both sources had correct transfer rates identified, I do not see why it would not throttle those priorities accordingly.

The reason why I want to see the transfer rates is because currently with ASUS QOS, some HTTPS traffic bypasses QOS entirely. That's why in your post you said some traffic does not show up.

If the xbox download did not fully show up on QOS statistics due to https (or if only a part of it was identified) then that could be the reason why it wasn't being throttled correctly to make room for your streaming traffic.

Also, if its an issue with my script then please post only within my thread to not to clutter the forums. If you are going to make a post outside of my thread, then TURN OFF the modifications to rule out any possible bugs and deal fresh "out-of-box" issues.

I can confirm that my throttling/bandwidth sharing is working as expected on my router (even the custom rules).

If your transfers are properly identified, we have one more thing to check before I am out of ideas and we are out of luck.

If the xbox transfer was not properly identified, then there is a rule we can add to sort this https traffic into the QOS engine instead of ignoring it.

Also note: some https traffic, instead of bypassing QOS, is identified as net control which is the highest priority. If your xbox was then detected as net priority, then that could be another bandwidth shaping issue.

We will have a better picture with a screenshot. Make sure you are not using "Automatic Bandwidth" as that does not work. You need manually defined limits.​

@Vexira thanks for the help. Just to clarify App Analysis does not have to be on for QOS to work

i was under the impression that it helps qos identify traffic, im aware its not a requirement for qos funtionality.

 

[FreshJR]

i was under the impression that it helps qos identify traffic, im aware its not a requirement for qos funtionality.

No its just a tool for you to see what each connected client is doing on the network and how much bandwidth the individual apps from that user are using if you are curious.

If I expand my computer it should say Youtube, Facetime, Counterstrike, etc.

It's wierd that it can identify some traffic by exact name but still not put it into the correct category. I swear I saw it say Facetime when I had it enabled, but Facetime did not go into VOIP....

 

[Vexira]

No its just a tool for you to see what each connected client is doing on the network and how much bandwidth the individual apps from that user are using if you are curious.

If I expand my computer it should say Youtube, Facetime, Counterstrike, etc.

It's wierd that it can identify some traffic by exact name but still not put it into the correct category. I swear I saw it say Facetime when I had it enabled, but Facetime did not go into VOIP....

gotcha still its use full, might help the op have a better idea of wahts going on, at least.

 

[FreshJR]

gotcha still its use full, might help the op have a better idea of wahts going on, at least.

I think its misleading. I see the router get correct names but then puts those into the wrong catagory.

He might think his streaming is identified from his App Analysis since it has the correct name, but really, its just going to another container.

That's why I want to see a screenshot of the container statistics in action.