Time change for British Summer Time (DST) and GMT

[TheLyppardMan]

I noticed that the time setting on my router was one hour out this morning and I discovered that the reason was because there are 5 Sundays in March this year and I had my settings configured to change to British Summer Time on the 4th Sunday of the month, as that would normally be correct. Q. Is there a way to set this up so that it is fully-automatic and not dependant on whether there are 4 or 5 Sundays in March or October?

 

[ColinTaylor]

Use "week 5", which really means "the last week of the month".

https://www.snbforums.com/threads/daylight-saving-last-sunday.62626/

 

[TheLyppardMan]

OK, thanks for that. I've now set it up like this and will wait to see what happens in October. Perhaps the wording in the GUI should be changed to reflect more precisely how this works, i.e., "Last..." rather than "5th..."?

 

[L&LD]

5th means last.

How would 'last day of the month' fit in there otherwise?

 

[TheLyppardMan]

5th means last.

How would 'last day of the month' fit in there otherwise?

But 5th could also, without this explanation, be assumed that it would be interpreted by the firmware as "there's no 5th Sunday (or other day) this month, so ignore". You would only need to replace "5th" with "Last" and there is ample space for that. If it had said that, I or anyone else who hadn't been enlightened, would not have to try to find an answer via this forum. Surely that makes sense doesn't it?

 

[ColinTaylor]

@RMerlin Would changing this be sufficient to stop these questions repeating every six months?

https://github.com/RMerl/asuswrt-me...c/router/www/Advanced_System_Content.asp#L962

var dst_week = new Array("", "1st", "2nd", "3rd", "4th", "Last");

It might cause some confusion for non-English speaking users, especially if they use a non-Latin alphabet (e.g. Chinese or Korean).

 

[L&LD]

@ColinTaylor the questions will just change to 'Last' what?

@TheLyppardMan a router is a mere tool with its own 'language' that is needed to communicate with it. You just learned that 5th means last. Why keep beating on this? A 5-second search on the forum would have found the answer for you so very long ago.

This is not something we're born knowing, nor do I believe that any, one, interpretation is more logical than the next.

The best we can do is learn it, and when we run across the question again; pass on our knowledge, if we can.

 

[TheLyppardMan]

@RMerlin Would changing this be sufficient to stop these questions repeating every six months?

https://github.com/RMerl/asuswrt-me...c/router/www/Advanced_System_Content.asp#L962

var dst_week = new Array("", "1st", "2nd", "3rd", "4th", "Last");

It might cause some confusion for non-English speaking users, especially if they use a non-Latin alphabet (e.g. Chinese or Korean).

In that case, wouldn't they be confused about all the other English words, or is this part of the GUI code non-language specific, i.e., even for Chinese users, they still see 1st, 2nd, etc (and then are perhaps left wondering what st, nd, rd, th stand for)?

 

[TheLyppardMan]

@ColinTaylor the questions will just change to 'Last' what?

@TheLyppardMan a router is a mere tool with its own 'language' that is needed to communicate with it. You just learned that 5th means last. Why keep beating on this? A 5-second search on the forum would have found the answer for you so very long ago.

This is not something we're born knowing, nor do I believe that any, one, interpretation is more logical than the next.

The best we can do is learn it, and when we run across the question again; pass on our knowledge, if we can.

I only discovered this to be a problem because there are five Sundays in March this year, so I wouldn't have searched for this "so very long ago" and I'm not "beating on this" but merely making a suggestion to possibly make things clearer for the less knowledgeable. Surely that's a good principle to abide by where possible isn't it?

 

[ColinTaylor]

In that case, wouldn't they be confused about all the other English words, or is this part of the GUI code non-language specific, i.e., even for Chinese users, they still see 1st, 2nd, etc (and then are perhaps left wondering what st, nd, rd, th stand for)?

I'd guess that even a non-Latin speaker would have seen enough foreign language to recognise numbers and deduce the order shown is 1-2-3-4-5. Expecting them to be able to translate the meaning of "last" might be a bit too much.

 

[TheLyppardMan]

I'd guess that even a non-Latin speaker would have seen enough foreign language to recognise numbers and deduce the order shown is 1-2-3-4-5. Expecting them to be able to translate the meaning of "last" might be a bit too much.

So does that part of the code not change with language variants?

 

[ColinTaylor]

So does that part of the code not change with language variants?

No, I checked. It's hard-coded in English on the web page. I even looked in the router's language file to see if there were existing translations for "last" but there wasn't.