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    Why I prefer Wifi 5 routers over 6/6E! Fast, cheap and fun

    Hi Tech Junky- Yeah only my phone is wifi 6. Everything else, including the entire IOT infrx (cams and sensors) runs on wifi 5 (or worse!), so I would have zero benefit from the faster 2.4 or the 160Mhz 5ghz wifi 6 Channels. Maybe a few years from now. One day I will upgrade but only once...
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    Why I prefer Wifi 5 routers over 6/6E! Fast, cheap and fun

    Hi Everyone! I've been a fan of SNB for years--maybe over a decade--but I've never shared my network. Since I'm very proud of it and I think YOU could easily replicate it, I wanted to take you through it. For starters: I have an EE degree so I can get in the weeds, but I will make it as simple...
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    Networking over Home Power Infra.

    dlink is the fastest spec'd version out there by far.
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    5Ghz -- Channels 36, 40, 44, 48

    agreed--the 3x3 explicit beam forming in AC as implemented by Apple is impressive--you can watch it happening as your link speed rises up from something "normal" like 300mbit to the still-mind-blowing 1300mbit rate. Way better RF design at all levels. But it's almost like cheating--and testing...
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    5Ghz -- Channels 36, 40, 44, 48

    Macbook Pro 13 inch, early 2011, maxed out. iPhone 5S. So both 11n devices. My wife has the latest Retina/AC Macbook Pro and the iPhone 6, so i can repeat the test with newer devices if necessary, but i am pretty satisfied with the results. The overall boost in 5G signals across my APs due to...
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    5Ghz -- Channels 36, 40, 44, 48

    ok i did some more testing and now i can fine tune recommendations on channel usage for iphones and apple routers. I checked with my new Airport Extreme AC (just installed last week), and found the following (all devices were fixed and not moved at all during testing): location channel...
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    5Ghz -- Channels 36, 40, 44, 48

    hmm. then it would seem testing results are still more valuable than specs. as usual! that's why we come here...
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    5Ghz -- Channels 36, 40, 44, 48

    are you sure they aren't switched? makes it look like 11n version has no limits on lower bands but newer 11ac added the limit. that seems backwards given the latest changes in regulation. please confirm, thanks, very useful info.
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    5Ghz -- Channels 36, 40, 44, 48

    Just wanted to report back, I did some same-room testing with my 2009 TC and my folks' 2009 Airport Extreme and yes indeed, the older units have 3db lower signal in the lower bands. That could explain Apple's efforts to boost the lower bands in client antenna design, but now that APs do not have...
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    Router for Load Balancing 2 Google Fiber Connections

    If you do it, why not get the second link from a different provider? Load balance across them when they are both up, and gain ISP redundancy which will seriously reduce outage risk when one goes down. It would be the real benefit of bothering with two links, IMO.
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    Networking over Home Power Infra.

    If you want the fastest available, it looks like its the new D-Link AV2000 Homeplug, going for $138 on Amazon right now. I'm holding off on replacing my TP-Link AV600 until Tim reviews the D-Link AV2000 and the Netgear AV1200....without real-world testing it's all marketing when the numbers get...
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    Networking over Home Power Infra.

    Homeplug is where it's at. Best deal is a used TP-Link TL-PA6010KIT for about $50. It's almost the fastest. You might get a little more speed from the new MIMO AV1200 models which cost twice as much. All have better than 100baseT potential performance over the power line, and gigE ports. TP-Link...
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    5Ghz -- Channels 36, 40, 44, 48

    well, i posted 2 links about detailed Apple antenna info, which isn't that easy to find. iPhone 5 and ATV3, both clearly designed for best performance in 36-48. Do you feel a diversity antenna is no big deal? We are talking a doubling of received signal, with better stability. Better dbi gain on...
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    5Ghz -- Channels 36, 40, 44, 48

    Phones have smaller antennas and less power. As such, if a lot of your traffic is phones, it makes sense to test with them and optimize for them, because a PC/Mac will always do well if a phone does well on the net, but the reverse is certainly not true. For phones, every db counts, and as such...
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    5Ghz -- Channels 36, 40, 44, 48

    One more Apple reason to go with the lower bands: Apple TV 3 added a second wifi antenna that ONLY works on 36-48. So if you want both antennas to connect on your ATV, you have to use the lower bands. This means any other bands are at best half the throughput. That's another good reason. More...
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    5Ghz -- Channels 36, 40, 44, 48

    with iPhones, if AP output doesn't vary, you should still be seeing a 3db increase for the lower bands due to antenna design, as you can see here (iPhone 5): more details here. So if you see them all as flat, maybe it is because your AP is lowering the lower bands by 3db? Anyway, that table...
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    5Ghz -- Channels 36, 40, 44, 48

    ok i just did a great test one more time. i put my iPhone in one spot on the table in my gazebo, line of sight to the AP, 25ft away. Ran speed tests until things stabilized, then checked RSSI using Airport Utility Wifi Scan for a few mins. I did it first with my Engenius 500EXT on 161, got an...
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    5Ghz -- Channels 36, 40, 44, 48

    hmm yes it is very likely that the 2009 TC was conforming to prior regulations and that explains the difference the TC was contributing to the signal delta. That said, the Engenius ENS500EXT doesn't appear to control output based on frequency, as i had both 44 and 161 manually set to 26dbm...
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    5Ghz -- Channels 36, 40, 44, 48

    I have been messing around with my APs and I have all Apple clients, Airport Extreme AC, Engenius and Netgear APs. UNI-II antenna circuitry in the iPhone and iPad--and maybe the Macs too--gives a receive boost (+1.8db or something) to 36-48 that is NOT matched in the other bands (look up the...
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    TP-Link AV2 600 PA6010 Kit

    ok i emailed TP-Link and got even more confused. So i went ahead and did the update. Guess what? IT'S THE SAME FIRMWARE. So, no need.
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