2 ISP and 2 routers ,+ mesh

[laptop]

I never know where to post. Hope this is the correct place.
I have 2 ISP, 2 modems and 2 Asus routers.
Can I use the ASUS program with both routers?
What I am wanting to do is add rt-ac86u b1 to a T-Mobile gateway as an extension/ mesh. I would like to Asus program if possible but I can not see the second router in the software. I understand it's connected to a different ISP. But how do I do it?
Second router is rt-ax86. Not that is would matter but it is easier to identify.thank you

 

[degrub]

What is the purpose of the second ISP ?

 

[laptop]

It is hopefully temporary as I am looking for a better service provider. My cox service is terrible. So I am wanting to verify the other ISP service before dropping cox

 

[dosborne]

Rather than a complex setup for testing, why not just connect one, run some tests, connect the other, run similar tests, then decide which is better? Otherwise, you can setup both, and just change the default gateway to point to one or the other.

 

[laptop]

thank you, I am having issues with both ISP's staying connected when I am using it as speeds are all over th eplace from 6 to 400 Mpbs. Strange for it may be the area that I am located in . Hills and a lot of trees.

 

[Digilog]

thank you, I am having issues with both ISP's staying connected when I am using it as speeds are all over th eplace from 6 to 400 Mpbs. Strange for it may be the area that I am located in . Hills and a lot of trees.

COX= cable and T-Mobile = cellular 5g/4g?

Cellular performance varies even though 4GLTE is about 100M on a good day, but usually 25-50 Mbps.
The COX cable shouldn't unless there is something physically wrong with cabling. What usually goes bad is the coax F connectors because all of them used this brass hex crimp type for years without knowing it was causing rf reflection issues in the system which would drop packets, and slow connections.

Also, speed test are not always going to give you the same result either. I ran tests in a lot of sites and even the same one, I will get different results.

 

[laptop]

Thanks, I have had cox replace most of my connections but I have an old house and some are not accessible. I know it's a bad deal. I was hoping that T-Mobile wireless would solve it but wireless has a way to go.
Back to the cox issue, I also have issues with Tv so it is probably a connection issue that can't be fixed , they are 40+ years old. Yuck

 

[degrub]

COX= cable and T-Mobile = cellular 5g/4g?

Cellular performance varies even though 4GLTE is about 100M on a good day, but usually 25-50 Mbps.
The COX cable shouldn't unless there is something physically wrong with cabling. What usually goes bad is the coax F connectors because all of them used this brass hex crimp type for years without knowing it was causing rf reflection issues in the system which would drop packets, and slow connections.

Also, speed test are not always going to give you the same result either. I ran tests in a lot of sites and even the same one, I will get different results.

@Digilog - so what connector avoids the issue ?

 

[Digilog]

@Digilog - so what connector avoids the issue ?

These, and basically and any of the metal plated brass hex crimps:

 

[Digilog]

Thanks, I have had cox replace most of my connections but I have an old house and some are not accessible. I know it's a bad deal. I was hoping that T-Mobile wireless would solve it but wireless has a way to go.
Back to the cox issue, I also have issues with Tv so it is probably a connection issue that can't be fixed , they are 40+ years old. Yuck

Good wire will last for centuries, but connectors and grounding can deterioate. But it does sound like Cox needs to fix your service. Even though it cost me more, I had my cable company land a cable run for the internet and a separate one for the TV. Because splitters will always cause issues with Doscis data communication.

Cable modems are another issue. I just bought a new one to replace my older one because the cable system upgraded so now I can get something more than 200Mb cable, plus it gets rid of the error messages in the cable modem that are about using an old modem in the system. 10 years was a pretty fair time for this device even though it could probably go for another 10 years without issues.

What I would recommend is having cox run a new line from the data node on the pole to the house. That a way the internet is not going through a bunch of splices and splitters. Then work on the TV coax network a little at a time, or have an av installer go over it.

 

[degrub]

These, and basically and any of the metal plated brass hex crimps:


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Those are the problem ones, correct ?

 

[Digilog]

Those are the problem ones, correct ?

Yes, they are the problem ones. Compression fittings are nickel alloy and don't chemically react to the shield. This was found out about them about 10 years ago.

This is what my connection looks like. I have some equipment things going on, my docisis modem version is out of date, and I have 3 splices in my line that comes from the pole from it being downed by trees a few times. My service is 200 down 20 up, but I get:

For people that don't know I'm running a server as a router and this connection was faster than this until the net neutrality rule. I was 2-5ms ping everywhere. Now its all over the place from 9 to 40 ms ping.

 

[Tech9]

My service is 200 down 20 up

I'm running a server as a router

Unless you expect 10Gbps fiber ISP upgrade soon - you're running a heater.

 

[Digilog]

Unless you expect 10Gbps fiber ISP upgrade soon - you're running a heater.

LOL, I wish it was a heater at times. But to let you know, the most wattage the 6 core AMD pulled was 35W. Never got past 3% cpu. But I guess if someone ran some sort of windows virtualization program or was stupid with 20 or so openVPN connections I guess that would be the case. The router is the only thing that doesn't get liquid cooled in a data center because it usually the coldest running machine.

BTW, there is no drawbacks to having a high speed network connected to a slower connection. What I find interesting, in the server base setups, if configured correctly, bypasses whatever stupid routing that adds 30ms to the latency. But could never get any store bought router to do the same. Now if there was a router CPU that could do dynamic packet queue management on the hardware level, then those low wattage CPUs would be better than a server in this application and I only found 1 processor that could do that, but software/OS is lacking maturity to utilize this chip properly. Could I use it as a router? yes, but I would have add a switch to the router since it doesn't have a lot of 10G ports. It would better as a breakout switch since it has 4 1G PHY built in besides the 2 10G PHY. Flogic 880 is this chip and it does have some potential. But will be looking forward to them making a router cpu with 5 or more 10Gb PHY on chip.

The Xenon server should give me better performance since two 10G phy is on chip. I find it interesting that the socket 115x consumer motherboards that had this capability only ran them at 1G.

The OP should just get the cable company to run a new cable, and fix the internet install instead of running cellular that doesn't have good reception.

 

[Tech9]

BTW, there is no drawbacks to having a high speed network connected to a slower connection.

But could never get any store bought router to do the same.

Because you need a switch for that, not a router.

 

[laptop]

Those are the problem ones, correct ?

yes correct!

 

[laptop]

These, and basically and any of the metal plated brass hex crimps:


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yes these are the ones