ASUS ROUTER PERFORMANCE

[tiomiguel]

In this forum is heavily advised products as ROG 6000 because it,s CPU power BROADCOM BCM4912 64 bit quad core but, in a domestic GIGABIT network WIth QoS disabled and WITHOUT VPN... Is there much difference between this CPU and a BCM6750 -for example- ?????? For doing NAT and routing BCM6750 is not enough???

Quad-core ARM v8 compliant 64 bit processor for residential access point applications BCM4912

The BCM4912 is a quad-core ARM v8 compliant 64-bit processor for residential access point (AP) applications.

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BCM6750

The BCM6750 is 2x2 802.11ax Wi-Fi 6 Tri-Core ARM SoC

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I have read crappy routers because have BCM6750 but in real life this is rightl???????????

 

[Volt]

No, you won't see much of a difference. For example, RT-AX82U V2 uses BCM6750 and is quite a capable router.

 

[tiomiguel]

RT-AX82U V1 /V2 has been described here a crappyy, basic, cheap router

 

[tiomiguel]

RT-AX55 have a quad core BCM6755 and is considered crappy router

 

[Volt]

You asked whether BCM6750 is enough. If you do not agree, then why ask? Go for GT-BE98 Pro instead, you won't be disappointed.

 

[Ripshod]

ax 2x2 (20/40/80) vs 4x4 (20/40/80/160)

 

[tiomiguel]

You asked whether BCM6750 is enough. If you do not agree, then why ask? Go for GT-BE98 Pro instead, you won't be disappointed.

No No, I agree. I have an RT-AX82U. I was thinking in upgrading but I thought: If this cpu is capable enough why upgrading?

 

[Tech9]

Is there much difference between this CPU and a BCM6750 -for example- ?

Yes, different cores ARMv7 vs ARMv8 + AES. Not exactly comparable clock per clock.

Current lower AX-class Asus routers are built around BCM6756. Base model RT-AX58U V2.
Current upper AX-class Asus routers are built around BCM4912. Base model RT-AX86U Pro.

Basically all popular models are derivatives from the above with different number and type radios and different marketing.

There is no "crappy" models. There are different models for different needs and different budget. Perhaps a bit too many.

If this cpu is capable enough why upgrading?

Capable enough for routing, but if you use OpenVPN your router can do about 100Mbps, RT-AX86U Pro can do 250Mbps.

 

[tiomiguel]

And what shuold be the scenarios that BCM4912 is required over BCM6756???
A user without VPN/QoS need BCM4912 ????

All this because in this forum I have not read yet REAL needs for each router model.

Perhaps a AX-6000 for a domestic net is wasting money and power (and electricity)

WQhat should be the step for going from BCM6756 to BCM4912???

 

[Tech9]

All this because in this forum I have not read yet REAL needs for each router model.

On this forum you mostly get "one size fits all" suggestions. Asus first, Asuswrt-Merlin supported second, GT-AX6000 or RT-AX88U Pro third - this is it. No one cares what do you need or what your budget is. If you are happy with your RT-AX82U - just continue using it. It's disposable hardware anyway like all consumer AIO routers. The reason I often say overpaying for "futureproofing" is not the best idea. When this future comes for you the router may be on End-Of-Life list already. Do you want Wi-Fi 7 router? They need beta testers...

 

[Tech9]

And what shuold be the scenarios that BCM4912

Asus have decided anything older stays on Asuswrt 4.0 firmware. If you want to see Asuswrt 5.0 firmware with new features - you need minimum RT-AX86U Pro model. Newer Wi-Fi 7 models also run on Asuswrt 5.0 and perhaps the firmware support for BCM4912 based hardware will be longer. Not guaranteed.

 

[L&LD]

No, people that don't actually use Asus routers give one size fits all recommendations, based on specs. Their one size is price, ignoring what a few dollars more buys a user (paltry $$ amounts when amortized over the expected lifetime of the router).

I don't care about the Soc used, except that it be paired to 1GB RAM or more. And have balanced hardware too.

Update home network (changing AC86U and AC68U)

Hello. I have an AC86U router in AIMESH mode with an AC68U node for my home Wi-Fi network. I have about 50 IOT / Homekit wifi devices at home, including mobile PCs, and so on. Given that the AC86U is nearing its end of life, what is the natural step to upgrade my home network? I am interested...

www.snbforums.com

Look at the links I've provided to you and be sure to also view the video for some eye opening results about 'identically spec'd models.

Don't buy specs, buy the models that offer real value instead.

 

[tiomiguel]

OK burt working in AP mode does not need a powerfull CPU and cheaper models are capable???

 

[L&LD]

Sure, they may be.

But I don't have time to test every possible combination of models.

My time is better used providing a stable, reliable, and performant network with the models/tools I know that work together, over a long time.

 

[Tech9]

OK burt working in AP mode does not need a powerfull CPU and cheaper models are capable???

If you are asking about AiMesh - at the moment cheaper routers on Asuswrt 4.0 firmware used as nodes to more expensive router on Asuswrt 5.0 firmware will limit the system functionality to whatever was available in Asuswrt 4.0. What AiMesh does best is selling more routers and you have to have the right ones. Asus wants your money and you have to upgrade your hardware in order to get new features system wide. So cheapest Asuswrt 5.0 node - yes, again the cheapest BCM4912 model, RT-AX86U Pro.

If you are asking in general - when multiple APs are needed better options then home routers are available, more reliable, more capable of handling multiple clients, with better roaming technologies and in most cases better quality software. No need to buy All-In-One routers for APs use.

 

[tiomiguel]

I never use AIMESH and I do not know why people use this mode:
- Less stable than AP mode. Sometimes when restarting a node does not boot
- All in the Same channel con overlap

At least this was my experience with AX82U main and two AX55 nodes. So, I have main and two AP;s in channels 1,6,11 with the same SSID... Works better than AIMESH

I was tinking in upgrading AX82U to a AX6000 ROG but I am not going to do. I have been reading and for a domestico net with 3oo Mb WAN without QoS/VPN and AX82U seems to work well... IF it not fail... ¿Why to change? And the two AX55 Wireless work quite well...
I shall wait

 

[Tech9]

I do not know why people use this mode

Because it offers Guest Network propagation to nodes and works wirelessly. AP Mode is more stable, but requires wires and doesn't have system wide Guest Network. There are pros and cons depending on the use case.

Some questions in regards of your "waiting" - Why do you buy AIO routers for APs in first place? Why you even play with consumer toys when you have wired infrastructure? What are you waiting for? Better options are available to you.

 

[tiomiguel]

You are right but except guest network everything else is better in AP mode.

About using AIO routers for AP you say there are better things... like what?

I had dedicated AP,s (UNIFI LR) and they were NOT better than my RT-AX55 (at least for domestic net). No better coverage and unable to direct access to the Ubiquiti AP. In AP mode you can access to ASUS AP,s

I have curiosity What is better than an RT-AX55 in AP mode? (With same or similar budget)