ASUS RT-AC5300

[RMerlin]

In a Robot War three-way combat, who would win between a Netgear R8000, an Asus RT-AC5300 and a D-Link DIR-895?

 

[joe012594]

In a Robot War three-way combat, who would win between a Netgear R8000, an Asus RT-AC5300 and a D-Link DIR-895?

Are we talking specification-wise? If so, Netgear's R8000 wouldn't last long, since it's an AC3200 class router. Between the RT-AC5300 and the DIR-895, it would be a tough call as neither product is available yet and, for all we know, D-Link may have had far more time to develope their version (no where near as many bugs). I believe D-Link announced at the beginning of the year, if I remember right.

Who do you think would win?

 

[Veldkornet]

In a Robot War three-way combat, who would win between a Netgear R8000, an Asus RT-AC5300 and a D-Link DIR-895?

The Asus RT-AC5300. It looks like it has been sent back in time, from a different dimension, to save us from crappy wifi!

 

[RMerlin]

Are we talking specification-wise?

I was referring to the fact that they all look like spider robots.



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[joe012594]

I was referring to the fact that they all look like spider robots.



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Ah ok. Then then RT-AC5300. lol!

 

[sfx2000]

It's more than likely going to be an upgrade from the RT-AC87U/R. By doing the math, I suspect you're 100% correct that it's basically an RT-AC5300 without the 2nd 5GHz radio. It'll likely have Smart Connect (band steering) in it as well, which is becoming a more mainstream feature among other manufacturers. And, of course, it'll have 4x4 MU-MIMO, even on 2.4GHz, unlike the RT-AC87U/R.

2.4GHz: 1000Mbps (200Mbps per spacial stream)
5GHz: 2165Mbps (541.25Mbps per spacial stream)

I would consider the RT-AC3100/RT-AC88 series to be the real update to the RT-AC68 series - the RT-AC87 is really a branch after reviewing the ASUSWRT code base... and with single 2.4GHz and 5GHz radios - smart connect might actually work well...

The "RT-AC3100/RT-AC88" Router/AP has potential to be a very good device - keep it simple and it should be solid - and with 4*4:4 radios in both bands, should see good performance across all clients including legacy 11b/g/a/n...

The QCA based Linksys EA8500 AC2600 device has good feedback - would be interesting to see what Broadcom's solution does...

 

[sfx2000]

Ah ok. Then then RT-AC5300. lol!

Darkhorse Candidate - Many Antennae device - Linksys WRT1900ac, lol... it's got the antennas and the size - and the *WRT build legacy, lol

My money is on the DLink AC3200 thingy - taking ID to the extreme!!!!

 

[sfx2000]

If I remember correctly, it's set to 128KB in the GPL drop.

Asus are increasingly moving some stuff to JFFS however (they already moved the OpenVPN key/certs), so that's also helping free up nvram space.

Funny that they didn't go to an eMMC - 16GB/32GB eMMC modules are very cheap these days, mainly due to tablets/phones/chromebooks/etc... adding the driver changes to the GPL dump is pretty straight forward since they already support SD...

 

[sfx2000]

Only hands-on video I could find on the web of the beast in question. Thoughts?

Seems to be really impressed with the industrial design - not...

IFA (and other trade events) can be overwhelming...

 

[RMerlin]

Funny that they didn't go to an eMMC - 16GB/32GB eMMC modules are very cheap these days, mainly due to tablets/phones/chromebooks/etc... adding the driver changes to the GPL dump is pretty straight forward since they already support SD...

Probably because, like most manufacturers, they stick to the reference design supported by Broadcom.

They do have something with MMC somewhere down their roadmap based on recent code changes...

 

[sfx2000]

robably because, like most manufacturers, they stick to the reference design supported by Broadcom.

They do have something with MMC somewhere down their roadmap based on recent code changes...

Looking at the same source - yes..

 

[NightOwl326]

Check out this link:

RT-AC5300 | Networking | ASUS Global
https://www.asus.com/Networking/RT-AC5300/

 

[pege63]

Think that evolution has gone overboard completely, instead of taking up clients that support these speeds so is ignoring them completely. In the current situation it is only a small number of clients that support AC 433Mbit less than 687Mbit onto eg laptops, mobiles and so on. I do not see the support off MUMIMO NOT even TurboQAM so what does it matter if a router can perform 5Gbit, when there is no support is available for it. Think it is completely illogical and totally not interesting what it can do theoretically on paper when it does not even show half of it practical, do not understand the hysteria about performance, that's not all.

 

[NightOwl326]

Think that evolution has gone overboard completely, instead of taking up clients that support these speeds so is ignoring them completely. In the current situation it is only a small number of clients that support AC 433Mbit less than 687Mbit onto eg laptops, mobiles and so on. I do not see the support off MUMIMO NOT even TurboQAM so what does it matter if a router can perform 5Gbit, when there is no support is available for it. Think it is completely illogical and totally not interesting what it can do theoretically on paper when it does not even show half of it practical, do not understand the hysteria about performance, that's not all.

New stuff is just interesting to follow. How many they sell to who and why is a different story. Just fun to watch the roll out. As for the rest of your post I am in total agreement!

 

[pege63]

I am also a technology freak and always want the Recent Subscribers technology, but then you get so damn disappointed that it does not deliver what it promises. What annoys me most is that they do not even take up these clients to work with their goods. If you take up a new router so it takes well presented eg USB clients that support them also otherwise it makes no sense right?

 

[RamGuy]

It's more "future proofing" that anything else. You won't see many notebooks, tablets or phones supporting TubroQAM or MUMIMO at the launch of this router. But I do expect there to be products within the next 1-4 years that will support it and purchasing routers like the RT-AC5200 will mostly be an investment for years to come.

The interesting part with RT-AC3200 and RT-AC5200 does not lay in TurboQAM and MUMIMO (RT-AC3200 does not support it anyway), its more about Broadcom's X-stream technology which is quite interesting in a day and age where many of us tends to have tons of WiFi-clients in our home and we keep getting more for every year to come with the huge push towards IoT (Internet-of-things) etc..

X-Stream seems like a logical next step in terms of consumer WiFi in order to ensure stable, reliable and efficient connections and speeds to the clients that needs it the most. I do not want my Fitbit Aria "Smart Scale" to bottleneck the WiFi-connection to my MacBook for instance. Having a router with X-Stream capability that tries to apply smart algorithms in order to intelligently shuffle and switch clients between WiFi connection in order to ensure optimal performance for everyone is a really smart and good thing.


I'm very interested to see if Broadcom have improved upon X-Stream in any meaningful way with the RT-AC5200. Because it does feel like its something that's not yet fully working with my RT-AC3200, that's for sure. Many clients keeps getting disconnected at random.

 

[pege63]

Yes i know BUT I talk about techniques specifications in general, not a specific Router. Does any one knows how many datastreams it has, cant see that in the manual.

 

[HawkFire]

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...c5300-router-claims-worlds-fastest-wifi.html?

 

[Ars92]

Think that evolution has gone overboard completely, instead of taking up clients that support these speeds so is ignoring them completely. In the current situation it is only a small number of clients that support AC 433Mbit less than 687Mbit onto eg laptops, mobiles and so on. I do not see the support off MUMIMO NOT even TurboQAM so what does it matter if a router can perform 5Gbit, when there is no support is available for it. Think it is completely illogical and totally not interesting what it can do theoretically on paper when it does not even show half of it practical, do not understand the hysteria about performance, that's not all.

Exactly man. I can't even make full use of my ac68u as theres no mobile 3x3 client available yet. And I've had the router for two years now :/


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[sfx2000]

There's good discussion here on X-Stream, MU-MIMO, and other items that are not specific to the main topic of this thread...

Thoughts on maybe starting a new thread on the evolution topic over in the General discussion forum?