Some comments and observations after spending some time playing with the basic 3.0.0.6_102_34312 firmware settings on an RT-AX86U Pro (no AiMesh, no VPN, no USB drive attached). Some of which has been reported/commented on already by others.
The Asus Privacy Notice in the QIS setup section is very troubling after taking a read through it. While you can decline it and proceed to setup the router, Asus makes it clear that they
CAN and
WILL push updates (note text in Section #2) if they feel it's warranted.
ASUS PRIVACY NOTICE (for firmware/security upgrades)
Welcome to use ASUS router (“this router”)! Please read this Notice carefully:
1. In order to provide you with firmware and security upgrades on this router and to analyze user experience for the purpose of development and evaluation of new products and services of ASUS, by clicking “Agree” below, you agree to share your following data related to this router, including IP address, hashed MAC address, the country of manufacture, model name, firmware and software module version, manufacture date and version of hardware, firmware update data (such as execution method, time and numbers of firmware update), system status (such as usage status of fan, CPU, RAM, flash memory and voltage), numbers and time of boot-ups, the time and network you use to connect to this router, crash history, product name and code, login status of ASUS router app and the number of times of security events with ASUS.
2. Please kindly note: If you click “Disagree” below or disable the sharing of the above data with ASUS through “Administration” page, it may result in the inability to update to the latest firmware version and unable to receive the most up-to-date security protection on this router; However, to protect the security of your router and ensure the compliance with laws, for upgrades addressing important security issues or meeting legal/regulatory requirements, those upgrades will still be downloaded and installed automatically. In this case, ASUS will collect your IP address, hashed MAC address, the country of manufacture, model name, firmware and software module version, which is necessary data for ASUS to deliver these important upgrades to your router.
3. ASUS is committed to protecting and respecting your privacy; you may visit “Administration->Firmware Upgrade/ Privacy” page to enable/disable the sharing of your above data with ASUS at all times. To know more about how ASUS protects your privacy, please visit ASUS’ Privacy Policy. (ASUS’ Privacy Policy)
[] I am above the age of 16 years.
To protect your privacy, please proceed with the age check. If you are a child under the age of 16, to protect your privacy, generally we will not collect the above data in paragraph 1 through this router except when providing you with upgrades addressing important security issues or meeting legal/regulatory requirements as mentioned above in paragraph 2.
When you hit the Disagree button you get the following dialog with the options "Read Again" or "I understood the risk":
Please be advised that disagreeing with ASUS PRIVACY NOTICE (for firmware/security upgrades) may result in the inability to update to the latest firmware version and unable to receive the most up-to-date protection on your ASUS Router; However, to protect the security of your router and ensure the compliance with laws, for upgrades addressing important security issues or meeting legal/regulatory requirements , those upgrades will still be downloaded and installed automatically.
Read Again I understood the risk
When one selects "I understood the risk" after previously hitting Decline; the following options are turned off on the Administration > Firmware Upgrade page.
- Auto Firmware Upgrade
- Security Upgrade
Unknown what other options are turned off in addition to those two.
So even with those options turn off apparently Asus can still push updates. That will be very concerning to say the least to those who want control over how their router is updated. In particular to prevent issues that have plagued Asus in the past when they pushed files that borked the router, in some cases rendered the router unusable.
There appears to be a possible typo on the Administration > Firmware Upgrade page.
5. Regarding data collection for firmware/security upgrades, please refer to “ASUS PRIVACY NOTICE (for firmware/security upgrades) at “Administration -> Privacy” page.
There doesn't appear to be a "Privacy" page under Administration unless I missed it. There is a "Policy" page.
In LAN > LAN - DHCP Server > DNS and WINS Server Setting section there is now the following option that one finds in Asus-Merlin firmware.
Advertise router's IP in addition to user-specified DNS
Don't remember if it was there in earlier stock firmware. This will be a benefit for some (like Pi-Hole users) if this is new in the stock firmware.
It appears, at least in my testing, for Guest Network Pro IoT; if you enable "
Use the same subnet as main network" option it doesn't appear the Guest Network WiFi clients are isolated from the main LAN clients, even if you select the Custom Network option and set "
Access Intranet" to off.
When "
Use the same subnet as main network" is set to off it appears Guest Network Pro IoT WiFi clients are isolated from main LAN and cannot access main LAN clients. Same when using Custom Network.
When using Customized Network with "
Use the same subnet as main network" option disabled and with "
Access Intranet" set to off, then assign Pi-Hole server in manual DNS entry section, Guest Network Pro WiFi clients cannot access Pi-Hole servers on main LAN. If "
Access Intranet" is enabled then Guest Network Pro WiFi clients could access Pi-Hole servers.
When the Guest Network Pro gives the option to set the DNS, if set to Default it assigns the Guest Network Pro Gateway IP address (ex: 192.168.52.1 or 192.168.53.1 in my testing) as the Guest Network Pro WiFi clients DNS server.
It appears you can manually set the Guest Network Pro WiFi client IP addresses on LAN > DHCP Server section provided you have "
Use the same subnet as main network" enabled. When that option is disable the Guest Network Pro WiFi clients pull random IP addresses from the Gateway IP address network pool (in my testing of two Guest Network Pro custom networks they used 192.168.52.x for 5ghz network and 192.158.53.x for 2.4Ghz network). Did not see any way to manually set IP addresses for Guest Network Pro WiFi clients when "
Use the same subnet as main network" is disabled. That may be a problem for some who want more granular control like they can get with Asus-Merlin and YazFi's custom scripting to set Guest Network WiFi IP addresses.
The firmware will be fine for those who just need the basics. I didn't test AiMesh or VPN so cannot comment on those features in the firmware. The Guest Network Pro will take some experimenting to get right for the individual use case once people understand how it works.
Personally I rolled back to Asus-Merlin 3004.388.7 (with YazDHCP and YazFi) to regain some more granular control over certain settings not offered (that I could see) in the stock Asus 3.0.0.6_102_34312 firmware. Will be interesting to see how the Asus-Merlin
version of the 3006 firmware will stack up against the stock Asus 3006 firmware when (if) a version for the RT-AX86U Pro is released. And if various add-on scripts like YazDHCP and YazFi will work or if they'll need (probably extensive) rewriting to make them work.