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Asustor...anybody using it?

kev7274

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I've been looking into Synology,Qnap,Thecus,etc and then I saw a review on the Asustor AS-302T. From what I can make out,it's ex-Synology guys making the NAS.

The specs look good and the build quality gets a thumbs up also. I was waiting on Synology to release their CE5300 version of NAS,but it doesn't have hdmi on the model I'm looking at.I can't get any sort of reply from Qnap about a CE5300/HDMI version of their NAS.

I don't really need HDMI,but it would be a nice addition.

The Asustor interface it nice,but could use a few improvements. Not a big deal.

Let me know what you guys think.

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1831/pg1/asustor-as-302t-nas-review-introduction.html
 
Hi,
When I was looking for my first NAS, I liked ASUS one but deal breaker was lack of NA service concern. I settled on Synology DS713+/DX213. Just updated DSM to latest and
it just chugs along. But I don't use it heavily. Winter project is to try some outdoor WiFi surveillance cameras.
Good luck with your new NAS whatever you decide on.
 
What are you looking for from a CE5300 NAS?

The NAS market is pretty crowded and ASUSTOR doesn't really offer anything unique.
 
Transcoding takes a very fast CPU - best done in batches on a good desktop PC, then the resultant files stored on NAS. Certainly not on-the-fly transcoding via the humble CPU in most all NASes.
 
Transcoding takes a very fast CPU - best done in batches on a good desktop PC, then the resultant files stored on NAS. Certainly not on-the-fly transcoding via the humble CPU in most all NASes.

So,even though the CE5300/CE5315 is supposed to be able to handle on the fly transcoding,it's not going to be able to?
If that's the case,seems to be a little mis-information going on.

I do have a desktop that would be able to transcode files,but wanted to try to get rid of a step in the whole process of getting them onto the NAS.
 
Transcoding takes a very fast CPU - best done in batches on a good desktop PC, then the resultant files stored on NAS. Certainly not on-the-fly transcoding via the humble CPU in most all NASes.

Agreed and if you have a fast machine with an SSD that can do your encoding/ripping/transcoding, my ripping speeds went through the roof when I put in an SSD. Then I just move them off to the NAS when I'm finished at it's plugged in via gigabit. . .Just throwing that out there, not trying to change momentum of the convo from that particular NAS. ;)
 
Agreed and if you have a fast machine with an SSD that can do your encoding/ripping/transcoding, my ripping speeds went through the roof when I put in an SSD. Then I just move them off to the NAS when I'm finished at it's plugged in via gigabit. . .Just throwing that out there, not trying to change momentum of the convo from that particular NAS. ;)

I appreciate the feedback. I am still leaning towards Synology or Qnap since they have been around longer. Just was wondering about Asustor.

How do you move them to the NAS? Are you just moving them from the pc to the NAS by your network?
 
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He suggested writing the transcoded file to SSD (or magnetic disk) to speed the process. Even a gigE LAN is far slower than any disk. Then later, simply move it to the right place in the NAS so the DLNA server can get it.

You're on the right track with Synology or QNAP. The latter tends to lag a bit, but compared to others, both are quite superior because they specialize in NASes and don't fall victim of Jack of All Trades, Master Of None, as do, IMO, Netgear NASes, LG, Buffalo, et al.
 
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I appreciate the feedback. I am still leaning towards Synology or Qnap since they have been around longer. Just was wondering about Asustor.

How do you move them to the NAS? Are you just moving them from the pc to the NAS by your network?

I owned a QNAP for a short time and for reasons I can't even remember now, I switched to Synology, then I upgraded slightly last year and got the 212+. I'm very happy with it, and even being a lower end model it's performance is solid.

I think QNAP & Synology tend to go head to head on being very feature rich, and also push new features out every year to the devices and also mobile apps.

Between this site's great NAS reviews, and Dong Ngo (sp?) whom I really respect over at cnet, you can really learn a lot about specs & features from an expert perspective, and of course forums like this you'll get a great tech savvy user perspective.

If there are any questions about performance or features on my synology running DSM 4.3, I'd be glad to answer in the forums, DM, whatever. ;)
 
I tried the demos of both Synology and Qnap and I liked both of them. Going to come down to what I need and what kind of price I can get.

I was waiting on the DS214+ to come to market,but I may see what else I can find,since the transcoding may not be all is supposed to be.
 
So I could transcode my files to an external drive (mech. or ssd) and then use the usb on the NAS to copy it to the NAS?
 
So I could transcode my files to an external drive (mech. or ssd) and then use the usb on the NAS to copy it to the NAS?

It really depends on what formats your files are in (or how you add new ones in), how they are being served up (NAS, media shares, itunes, etc) and how you are going to watch them (portable device, Apple TV, Xbox, PS3, Roku, UPnP built into TV or BluRay player, Windows Media Center, etc.).

If you're downloading torrents of MKV files (which is a popular format) some of the players I just mentioned can play MKV files, some can't. One option is to re-encode the file you started with into a different format .mp4, .mov, etc (using handbrake or similar program). Or. . .some media servers can do magic transcoding on the fly while you play something.

Here's a screenshot of me watching an .MKV file (Workaholics) on my MacBook that DSvideo on my Synology sends via Chrome. . .it looks awesome and I can even direct it (from the browser, or my phone, to go to an Apple TV as well). So the Synology is doing the brunt of the work, pushing the files through

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I can tell transcoding is going on because the Synology CPU meter is pegged at 100%.

I also have some .mp4 files on my NAS, here's me watching a movie but using VLC on my MacBook, no transcoding necessary, the files are of similar quality at stream about 700kb/S (which is good but probably on the low end of the spectrum for Netflix streams [which I've measured up to 3-4MB/s+]) and I left the Synology CPU meter in frame so you can see it's not doing any work here, just moving a file over.

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So yes, many NASes can do some kind of transcoding, but if that matters to you or not depends on what sources your files are and how you plan on watching them. If I wanted to watch MKVs on my phone I would either need to watch them through something that could transcode on the fly (like the Synology DSvideo app) or re-encode them into a different format altogether.


Most people just settle on a format or two that works for them and their specific eco-system of players, portable devices, and server setup (eventually I want to get a spare Mac just to serve up stuff to things in my Mac ecosystem that unfortunately don't share too well when stored on NAS anymore [at least videos don't]), so everyone is different. . .

When I first mentioned SSDs and ripping/encoding files, I meant like once you figure out your system and how you want to store things, oftentimes that means you now want to rip all your DVDs or convert all the stuff you have that's in one format to another format so that your setup can most easily use, play, and distribute it. Ripping or reencoding on a machine with an SSD is a drastically faster process than with a spinning drive, but if you don't have much stuff to rip or have a spare machine you can queue up a bunch of things and don't mind if it takes awhile, it doesn't make a big difference. Personally that's how I do it, then I transfer those files over to the NAS where they sit to be used (txfring just takes minutes over gigabit).

Media servers like Plex (runs on lots of stuff), XBMC, or even Synology's DSvideo do cool things like organize your movies and videos, get metadata and album art for them. . .they also occasionally make some really weird mistakes like thinking UK Top Gear is a porno show.

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And lastly, if your main method of aquiring movies is torrents, I would advise you look elsewhere like "Backing up" your DVDs/Blurays, or there's also other, older places on the net, that still one might be able to find movies, but "I know a guy" who got a in a pinch with his ISP once over the whole torrent thing. ;)

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That said, the Download Station on the Synology is not just an amazing Torrent station, it can download legitimate stuff as well, I love it for that. . .and not tying up a PC doing it.

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HTH and wasn't too much info overload!

PS - moving files via USB drive or flashdrive would not be a particularly fast process. . .hardwired gigabit connection can get you 60-80MB/s no problem through a newer router/switch to and from the NAS (and that's just my 212+).
 
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I use a htpc that runs xbmc that has an Intel D2550 Atom dual core 1.86ghz and GT610 graphics that plays 1080p movies and it even does DTS-MA ,etc. I dont remember what file type I used on that movie though. I also have a WDTV Live Plus that Ive not used in months.

The download station looks good. Seems to be a nice interface.

As for torrents,I really dont mess with them. Mainly looking to get my blurays onto the NAS.

I do have an android tablet,win 8 ultrabook,ipad and macbook pro that could be used to watch stuff,but it would mainly be watched on the LCD tv.
 
So if most of your viewing is going to be on the TV via the XBMC on the HTPC you could really just point your XBMC to network share where you put your videos, I don't think you would even need a true "server" if you had the files in a format the XBMC could read (and it is pretty versatile).

There are several guides out there on the net on how to "backup" Bluray discs, here is one.

If your viewing on the other devices took place just in the confines of your home I'd think VLC (and perhaps WMP) on the Ultrabook and Oplayer or VLC on the iOS device could also just see the network share and open the media file directly (I'm sure there's stuff for Android too, don't know off the top of my head).

I'm sure other people more knowledgeable than I will chime in if using some sort of a server (Plex, Sickbeard DSvideo, etc) has an advantage in this situation.

hth
 

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