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[Paliv]

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The final scaled down build.

Not full AMD

Very nice!

 

[avtella]

7700X good purchase, also nice that you paired it with DDR 6000, as 3 GHz seems to be the Infinity Fabric sweet spot.

If in the states, Microcenter is giving free 32GB CL36 6000 Mhz Ram with 7700/7950X Ryzen CPUs and 5600 MHz for 7600X.

 

[sfx2000]

The final scaled down build.

Nice build - never been a big fan of liquid cooling - I was one of those that had a PowerMac G5 that leaked badly - Apple did me a solid and just replaced it, but the G5 was out of production, and the Intel MacPro's had just been released...

PowerMac G5 Coolant Leaks/Repairs

PowerMac G5 tower owner reports on coolant leaks, repairs in and out of warranty, alternate repair sources/DIY repairs.

www.xlr8yourmac.com

Sometimes it does pay to have AppleCare...

 

[BreakingDad]

Nice build - never been a big fan of liquid cooling - I was one of those that had a PowerMac G5 that leaked badly - Apple did me a solid and just replaced it, but the G5 was out of production, and the Intel MacPro's had just been released...

PowerMac G5 Coolant Leaks/Repairs

PowerMac G5 tower owner reports on coolant leaks, repairs in and out of warranty, alternate repair sources/DIY repairs.

www.xlr8yourmac.com

Sometimes it does pay to have AppleCare...

First time on liquid for me, my son has it with no issues. Read a lot of reviews of the artics and they seem pretty good. Also I've gone for understated and dropped all additional rgbs on the cooler and ram, as I love the light on the dx case and that's enough for me. I am 51 for gods sake lol. That and they just give additional cost for lights not many people are going to see anyway.

You wouldn't know I was 51, just played fortnite (i know) with 2 mates and we were like kids getting in cars and trucks driving around.

Good to see you in the discord @Paliv anyone else who wants an invite pm me, we specialise in overwatch and fps games, but also play a host of other games, with members from all over the EU, and our new friend from the states toxicity in all forms is not tolerated and I swoop down on anyone participating in this. Most of us are also heavily into tech, with some of the team professional artists, game designers etc with degrees to match or hobbyists. The server also has live feeds from reddit,twitch streamers, youtube etc, music bot, quizes, free game deals, hot deals etc etc. blah blah, you get the idea.

 

[avtella]

I bought an MSI Trio X 4090 (retail price) and am already thinking of returning it, amount of coil whine is insane even below 120 FPS in some games and 7-10 ft away..... I can hear it over my 7 case fans... If anyone is thinking of getting a 4090 (or even a 4080) beware, it seems intensity of the whine is luck of the draw regardless of brand. Seems anecdotally (scouring through reddit/various forums, hard to truly tell how prevalent it is as of course mostly those with issues will post) Asus/MSI including their high end Strix/Suprim are supposedly among the worst. Hard to get a Founders Edition as mostly bots pretty much seem to be getting the Best Buy drops. Also again anecdotally of course, Gigabyte variants and it seems ironically some of the lower quality variants with fewer and lower quality VRMs like Zotac and Palit are seeming to have less of an issue. Coming from a relatively compact Dell OEM 3090 (MSI made) it was a nice boost for 4K gaming but the noise at least for me is a dealbreaker. I guess with some closed back headphones you may be able to get away (I could still hear it with my ATH MSR7b) with it but open back headphones or playing with speakers it may be pretty hard with some of these 4090s.

 

[BreakingDad]

It is built

Don't tell me the pump is wrong, because it isn't, it's a legit way of doing it.

 

[avtella]

Nice build. I like the preempt video lol. While the issue is overblown, overtime tubes top will be less efficient earlier as permeation gets worse and you start sucking in air with lower fluid levels and depending on the rad manufacturers filling percent standard and distance of ports from the edge it might be less efficient from the get go in that position, but yeah sometimes you got no choice due to the case situation, I’m there myself. I had my Corsair H150i AIO at the top of the case (Corsair 5000D) but had to move it to side position with tubes up as my MSI 4090 Liquid Suprim’s AIO is now in top mount. I could mount it tubes down in the front but would cause issues with side air intake as rad would partially block the side fans.

Unlike Corsair which discourages tubes top, BeQuiet’s AIOs come with an extra coolant bottle and and an easy access fluid port to top up the rad so they don’t see it as an issue.

 

[BreakingDad]

I like the preempt video lol.

Yeah I know what "certain" members are like

 

[BreakingDad]

My sanctuary

 

[Clark Griswald]

@BreakingDad
Might I suggest the placement of a GT-AX6000 in your Sanctuary
The 6000 is on sale Forum Link

 

[BreakingDad]

@BreakingDad
Might I suggest the placement of a GT-AX6000 in your Sanctuary
The 6000 is on sale Forum Link

It's the right colour, but my ax86u might get jealous.

 

[Clark Griswald]

It's the right colour, but my ax86u might get jealous.

I've read that those two will "mesh"

 

[BreakingDad]

I've read that those two will "mesh"

Tempting as it is, I have no need for a second router right now and it would probably not end well with the wife, considering what I just spent on myself. lol.

 

[avtella]

My first introduction to PC games was with Command and Conquer and Starcraft, which led me to be interested into computers in general where I'd tinker with my father's computer/computers at times screwing up the os lol.

Games I play include - FPS: Hell Let Loose, Squad, Red Orchestra 2 - Heroes of Stalingrad, ARMA III, Ghost Recon. Strategy: Total War series - Rome 2/Attila/Napoleon, Hearts of Iron 4, Call to Arms, Homeworld 2. MOBA: DoTa (I’m terrible at it)

Parts:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5800 (65 Watt, Non-X) (Was going to move to an Intel 13900 (Non-K) or an AMD 7950X3D later in the year but came back to reality lol, for my purposes the GPU upgrade was enough, I think people really underestimate the lower wattage Intel/AMD chips, you lose very little performance for a cooler chip with big power savings)
GPU: - MSI 4090 Suprim Liquid (Coil whine but not nearly as bad as the MSI Gaming Trio I returned to Newegg, was a lucky find, our local Microcenter accidentally listed all their internal reserve 4090s meant for custom builds for sale on Saturday, two weeks ago due to a system glitch but let me buy one anyway after I told them I drove like 40mins to get there)
RAM: Fury 3200 MHz, CL20 @ CL18
Storage: 2x Samsung 980 Pro 2TB
Motherboard: Asus X570E WiFi Gaming II (Replaced the Mediatek WiFi card with an Intel AX210, no longer need it as I'm wired now)
Add on cards:
--Audio: Creative Soundblaster AE9 (External USB DAC AMP would honestly probably have been more practical/better)
--Ethernet: Intel X710-T2L (no longer used in my firewall so was just sitting around)
Case: Corsair 5000D Airflow
CPU Cooler: Corsair H150i Cappelix (BeQuiet AIOs are probably a better buy if priced similarly, with an easy to access fill port and the fact that you get an extra bottle of coolant)
Fans: 7x Corsair ML120 Elite (Honestly I feel the Noctua NF-A12s are much more silent , probably the best case fans I've tested for noise/performance balance), the MagLev Corsair fans I feel are little overhyped and while not necessarily loud do have quite an annoying hum to them at mid RPMs.)
PSU: Corsair HX1200

Accessories:
Display: LG C2 42” OLED TV (Some very steep discounts on these online)
Mouse: Logitech G-PRO
Keyboard: Logitech G915TKL
Headphones: Audio Technica MSR-7B

 

[BreakingDad]

My first introduction to PC games was with Command and Conquer and Starcraft, which led me to be interested into computers in general where I'd tinker with my father's computer/computers at times screwing up the os lol.

Games I play include - FPS: Hell Let Loose, Squad, Red Orchestra 2 - Heroes of Stalingrad, ARMA III, Ghost Recon. Strategy: Total War series - Rome 2/Attila/Napoleon, Hearts of Iron 4, Call to Arms, Homeworld 2. MOBA: DoTa (I’m terrible at it)

Parts:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5800 (65 Watt, Non-X) (Was going to move to an Intel 13900 (Non-K) or an AMD 7950X3D later in the year but came back to reality lol, for my purposes the GPU upgrade was enough, I think people really underestimate the lower wattage Intel/AMD chips, you lose very little performance for a cooler chip with big power savings)
GPU: - MSI 4090 Suprim Liquid (Coil whine but not nearly as bad as the MSI Gaming Trio I returned to Newegg, was a lucky find, our local Microcenter accidentally listed all their internal reserve 4090s meant for custom builds for sale on Saturday, two weeks ago due to a system glitch but let me buy one anyway after I told them I drove like 40mins to get there)
RAM: Fury 3200 MHz, CL20 @ CL18
Storage: 2x Samsung 980 Pro 2TB
Motherboard: Asus X570E WiFi Gaming II (Replaced the Mediatek WiFi card with an Intel AX210, no longer need it as I'm wired now)
Add on cards:
--Audio: Creative Soundblaster AE9 (External USB DAC AMP would honestly probably have been more practical/better)
--Ethernet: Intel X710-T2L (no longer used in my firewall so was just sitting around)
Case: Corsair 5000D Airflow
CPU Cooler: Corsair H150i Cappelix (BeQuiet AIOs are probably a better buy if priced similarly, with an easy to access fill port and the fact that you get an extra bottle of coolant)
Fans: 7x Corsair ML120 Elite (Honestly I feel the Noctua NF-A12s are much more silent , probably the best case fans I've tested for noise/performance balance), the MagLev Corsair fans I feel are little overhyped and while not necessarily loud do have quite an annoying hum to them at mid RPMs.)
PSU: Corsair HX1200

Accessories:
Display: LG C2 42” OLED TV (Some very steep discounts on these online)
Mouse: Logitech G-PRO
Keyboard: Logitech G915TKL
Headphones: Audio Technica MSR-7B

Neat little setup you got there, and I see you share the same taste in mice as me. The G-Pro Wireless is an almost perfect mouse in my opinion.

It is weird how monitors don't look nearly as big as they are on photos, mine are a pair of rog swift 27inch panels one @ 165hz and one @144hz, and they look tiny as well on my photo, but in reality they are pretty huge. In my build I had to cut my budget a bit and went for the 3070 for now, with the view to upgrading it in a year or two, and handing the 3070 to my son to upgrade his 2060super (which is fine for now and runs everything well). I was going to get the new AMD 7000xt card but it would have increased my budget by about £500, and for what I play the 3070 trio is more than ample. With my new setup I am pushing 580fps on overwatch (on competitive low settings) and 180fps on fortnite, on med-high settings.

I to played C&C in the old days, when I had an apartment, we would get friends over and set up a lan and play 6 hour long games.

I don't actually have a bequiet aio, I opted for the artic one after reading reviews, and am very impressed with it so far, it is almost silent in comparison to the buzzy corsair one my son has. (I might upgrade him at some point)

I seem to have scored lucky on the coil whine front, I have none so far.

Loving seeing the picture of peoples set ups, if anyone else has a nice setup to share, would like to see it.

All the best.

 

[avtella]

That’s a good monitor, 27-32” is a good size. 42” is pushing the edge of comfort for me, took a few days to get used it lol. I looked at high end monitors in the 600-800 range and the C2 just seemed perfect for me, has Dolby Vision and I also wanted a TV in my room so it worked out as a 2 in 1. Some compromises though being OLED include having to make the task bar auto hide and making sure there’s a rotation of wallpapers to alleviate the burn in issue for as long as possible. Lastly have to use a third party app to make the TV behave like monitor to turn the screen on/off with the computer.

Yeah the Arctic is also very positively well reviewed, the Corsair H150 AIO definitely has a buzz to it, it’s a CoolIT based pump design if I recall, the Arctic I believe uses a custom pump rather than relying on Asetek or CoolIT like the others do. Asetek really held back competition for a while with their patents.

I feel your 3070 was a good buy. As for the AMD 7000 GPU series they seem pretty underwhelming for the price after the reviews came out. Both AMD and nVidia are really milking it, this gen. Intel is way behind but still good to have a third vendor enter the GPU fray it will take a few generations for Intel to be a bit more competitive at the mid to low end, pricing also might eventually become competitive again.

 

[BreakingDad]

That’s a good monitor, 27-32” is a good size. 42” is pushing the edge of comfort for me, took a few days to get used it lol. I looked at high end monitors in the 600-800 range and the C2 just seemed perfect for me, has Dolby Vision and I also wanted a TV in my room so it worked out as a 2 in 1. Some compromises though being OLED include having to make the task bar auto hide and making sure there’s a rotation of wallpapers to alleviate the burn in issue for as long as possible. Lastly have to use a third party app to make the TV behave like monitor to turn the screen on/off with the computer.

Yeah the Arctic is also very positively well reviewed, the Corsair H150 AIO definitely has a buzz to it, it’s a CoolIT based pump design if I recall, the Arctic I believe uses a custom pump rather than relying on Asetek or CoolIT like the others do. Asetek really held back competition for a while with their patents.

I feel your 3070 was a good buy. As for the AMD 7000 GPU series they seem pretty underwhelming for the price after the reviews came out. Both AMD and nVidia are really milking it, this gen. Intel is way behind but still good to have a third vendor enter the GPU fray it will take a few generations for Intel to be a bit more competitive at the mid to low end, pricing also might eventually become competitive again.

Was reading about the Intel Arcs last night, as you say, great to have another supplier in the loop, they have reduced the prices and the high end is pushing 3060 power so far. With Intel I suspect this is just the beginning.

 

[RMerlin]

With Intel I suspect this is just the beginning.

As long the higher ups and vulture stockholders are patient, as it takes time to catch up on two companies that have a 20 years head start on you. The hardware itself is fine (only a minority of gamers are willing to spend $800+ on a high end GPU, and even their RT engine seems to already be on par with AMD`s second gen engine), the roughest bits at the moment are still software - and they are making great progress in improving on that front, the recent driver release brought another major performance boost on older DX9 games.

Current rumoured plan is for a refreshed Alchemist+ launch somewhere in 2023, and the next gen Battlemage architecture to appear in 2024.

 

[sfx2000]

The hardware itself is fine (only a minority of gamers are willing to spend $800+ on a high end GPU

Sorry to say - if I'm spending $800+ on a GPU card, it won't be intel...

 

[BreakingDad]

Sorry to say - if I'm spending $800+ on a GPU card, it won't be intel...

If the performance and stability is there, I see no reason why not. Having three players in the game can only be good for the community.