EnGenius ESR9850

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EnGenius looks very interesting....so when might we see a review of the ESR-7750?

 

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EnGenius looks very interesting....so when might we see a review of the ESR-7750?

Until SNB releases its review, there are 2 reviews linked on this thread at bottom.

 

[thiggins]

EnGenius looks very interesting....so when might we see a review of the ESR-7750?

A few weeks. It's on the way in.

 

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Is Engenius a small company? There isnt much info about them online.

 

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Is Engenius a small company? There isnt much info about them online.

Engenius is the brand used in Western countries by the parent company, Senao.


http://www.senao.com/English/defaul...POS=0&PID=a1&CATNO0=A&IDX=3.0&CNT=1&CATNO1=A1

They also OEM for competitors, for example they made products for Netgear:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netgear#Manufacturing

Here's a copy of a shipment of products they sent to them in 2007:

http://www.importgenius.com/shipments/senao-networks-inc.html

Seems like they are better known among manufacturers and corporations, not consumers. But in the end, why buy a name from a maker who doesn't make their own, and it shows at times, when the OEM is the real one you want, who now is selling direct to consumers.

 

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Maximum Simultaneous Connections, ESR-7750

Thanks to Tim's easy to use tool, I ran 3 sets per his instructions, and got these typical results:


Router Test, run via a cabled connection, but it always terminated with an error after over 30,000, sessions.

C:\>client xxx.xxx.0.103 20000 xxx.xxx.0.101 12345
http://matrix21.myweb.hinet.net
Send UDP packets from xxx.xxx.0.103(20000+) to xxx.xxx.0.101(12345)
30433 WinSock Error# function: Bind(), error code:10048


The Router test this time run via wireless, came back with variable numbers between 2500-3000 sessions.

C:\>client xxx.xxx.0.100 20000 xxx.xxx.101 12345
http://matrix21.myweb.hinet.net
Send UDP packets from xxx.xxx.0.100(20000+) to xxx.xxx.101(12345)
3001No response packet

C:\>

 

[thiggins]

I get a result similar to what you got with the cabled connection when I forget to shut off Skype. Make sure that any background apps are NOT running when you run this
test start by power cycling the router under test.

 

[tipstir]

Well indeed such a wireless router made into a wired router giving you such port performance for WAN to LAN and LAN to WAN sounds more promising. For the heck of it I'll order one and use it as the main DHCP router but as wired. Take the two Belkin N+ and use them as AP for N only since N performance in those are excellent. Even though all 3 routers have the same chipset for Realtek Gig controllers 832KB Packet buffer but the Ralink CPU is higher 266MHz in the Belkin N+ V1 and this router it's 384MHz with 32MB of RAM.

 

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Maximum Simultaneous Connections, ESR-7750

I get a result similar to what you got with the cabled connection when I forget to shut off Skype. Make sure that any background apps are NOT running when you run this
test start by power cycling the router under test.

Thanks Tim. I tried again, and shut down every network requiring application, and per your instructions power off/on the router between each test; I turned off the firewall and antivirus too. Still get the error ran on Vista 32 bit, Home version, and XP SP3 as the client.

Nevertheless, I am getting maximum sessions consistently over 30,000 sessions, on a cable connection.

Here are the 3 runs:

Cable Connection

C:\>client xxx.xxx.0.103 20000 xxx.xxx.0.101 12345
http://matrix21.myweb.hinet.net
Send UDP packets from xxx.xxx.0.103(20000+) to xxx.xxx.0.101(12345)
31510 WinSock Error# function: Bind(), error code:10013

C:\>client xxx.xxx.0.103 20000 xxx.xxx.0.101 12345
http://matrix21.myweb.hinet.net
Send UDP packets from xxx.xxx.0.103(20000+) to xxx.xxx.0.101(12345)
29848 WinSock Error# function: Bind(), error code:10048

C:\>client xxx.xxx.0.103 20000 xxx.xxx.0.101 12345
http://matrix21.myweb.hinet.net
Send UDP packets from xxx.xxx.0.103(20000+) to xxx.xxx.0.101(12345)
31510 WinSock Error# function: Bind(), error code:10013

C:\>
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Same test via Wireless Connection:



C:\>client xxx.xxx.0.100 20000 xxx.xxx.0.101 12345
http://matrix21.myweb.hinet.net
Send UDP packets from xxx.xxx.0.100(20000+) to xxx.xxx.0.101(12345)
1101No response packet

C:\>client xxx.xxx.0.100 20000 xxx.xxx.0.101 12345
http://matrix21.myweb.hinet.net
Send UDP packets from xxx.xxx.0.100(20000+) to xxx.xxx.0.101(12345)
1010No response packet

C:\>client xxx.xxx.0.100 20000 xxx.xxx.0.101 12345
http://matrix21.myweb.hinet.net
Send UDP packets from xxx.xxx.0.100(20000+) to xxx.xxx.0.101(12345)
1658No response packet

C:\>

 

[thiggins]

I looked at your output more closely. Since client and server are both in the xxx.xxx.0.xxx net, that tells me you have both running on the LAN side of the router.

Client should be on the LAN side, server on the WAN side. Otherwise you're trying to test the session capacity of the router switch. Engenius themselves rates the router for only 19,000 sessions, which I verified.

 

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I looked at your output more closely. Since client and server are both in the xxx.xxx.0.xxx net, that tells me you have both running on the LAN side of the router.

Client should be on the LAN side, server on the WAN side. Otherwise you're trying to test the session capacity of the router switch. Engenius themselves rates the router for only 19,000 sessions, which I verified.

Thanks Tim, you're the man. Will study those IP addresses as you suggest and try again!

 

[thehiddenproject]

Utility

Could I also get this test utility to play around with? Their website links are down.

 

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Could I also get this test utility to play around with? Their website links are down.

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/lanwan-howto/31103-how-we-test-hardware-routers-revision-3

 

[tipstir]

I've just ordered two of these! One for the main DHCP & AP and the other for secondary AP. Although the EnGenius ECB9500 - Wireless access point - 802.11b/g/n (draft) - external - looks like a good deal using Ralink chipset 266MHz and 32MB of RAM on Gig Controller. I was cheaper to get two of the same ESR9850 instead of the more expense ECB9500.

 

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I've just ordered two of these! One for the main DHCP & AP and the other for secondary AP. Although the EnGenius ECB9500 - Wireless access point - 802.11b/g/n (draft) - external - looks like a good deal using Ralink chipset 266MHz and 32MB of RAM on Gig Controller. I was cheaper to get two of the same ESR9850 instead of the more expense ECB9500.

When you get them please add your review to the SNB so we can hear more of other user feedback.

 

[tipstir]

When you get them please add your review to the SNB so we can hear more of other user feedback.

No problem!

 

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No problem!

Thanks! I use the ESR-7750 and will add a review once Tim gets his online.

 

[tipstir]

Thanks! I use the ESR-7750 and will add a review once Tim gets his online.

Mine should be shipped out today? I use dual direction PCI-E Gig connections, 802.11n, 802.11g and network media streaming which I am slowly migrating over to dual direction PCI-E performance for HDTV 1080P streaming both on the WAN to LAN and LAN to LAN. Still have 5 network media sharing at SD 480i running 100mbps. I task the routers heavy. I am very interesting how this router wide-open ports will function here? Next to this I was aiming for E3000 by Cisco Linksys. I am not sold on the hoop-la on the netgear 3700 bandwagon.

 

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Mine should be shipped out today? I use dual direction PCI-E Gig connections, 802.11n, 802.11g and network media streaming which I am slowly migrating over to dual direction PCI-E performance for HDTV 1080P streaming both on the WAN to LAN and LAN to LAN. Still have 5 network media sharing at SD 480i running 100mbps. I task the routers heavy. I am very interesting how this router wide-open ports will function here? Next to this I was aiming for E3000 by Cisco Linksys. I am not sold on the hoop-la on the netgear 3700 bandwagon.

Yes, you suggest how complex your needs are with your signature's description of your system, so you're report will be very revealing!

 

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Yes, you suggest how complex your needs are with your signature's description of your system, so you're report will be very revealing!

Well going have to wait for that review from me? I just got a notice saying due to bla, bla, and bla that the 2 items ordered have been canceled by the seller because they don't have any in stock! Yet I was charged anyway. This nuts! Anyway, so I'll have to find another one seller. I'll never order through that seller again. First time with them too. Dirty SOB have the items in stock! They're charging more for it and won't honor the price that was so dirt cheap yesterday when I ordered for both of them.