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Just replaced RT-AC56U with ZenWifi XT8, using as Access Point: Some questions (5Ghz-2 Band running very hot, and is not visible)

Jawadali

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Hi Everyone, I just upgraded from an RT-AC56U to a ZenWifi XT8. I am still familiarizing myself with this whole "two 5Ghz bands" concept, so I had some questions.

Background:

My home setup prior to today involved a Verizon Quantum G1100 being used as a wired router in a utility closet downstairs, and an ASUS RT-AC56U on our main floor. The G1100 has it's WiFi radios turned off, and the RT-AC56U was set up in Access Point mode with the last available Merlin firmware. It had served well as the sole wireless access point for our home for several years, but it was EOL a couple of years ago. With newer phones/devices at home, we wanted to upgrade to something newer. Of note, the 2.4Ghz band seemed to be weaker/harder to connect to in recent weeks. For reference, we are on a 300/300 Megabit plan on Verizon FiOS, and we own the G1100 router (i.e. not rented).

Upgrading to the ZenWifi XT8:

I picked up a secondhand ZenWifi XT8 unit that I found locally for a great deal. I was doubly excited seeing that it was on the Merlin GNUton compatibility list. Though it's HW Reviwion 1.0, it has a date code of 2022, so it's not that old. I performed a Factory Reset, flashed the latest GNUton firmware (3004.388.8_4-gnuton1), and then set it up as an Access Point with the same 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz SSIDs and credentials as the outgoing RT-AC56U. I also created a new, third SSID for the 5Ghz-2 network, as part of the setup wizard. Lastly, I assigned it a static IP, just like the RT-AC56U had.

Observations and Issues
Note that various screenshots have been attached. I have not messed with the Advanced wireless networking settings, nor the "Smart Connect" settings.
  1. Preliminary testing indicates the speeds have increased by 25-50% in a few key spots in the home, and even higher in some instances.
  2. The Range remains to be tested. The RT-AC56U had very good range even outside of our home.
  3. I had some trouble getting my devices to connect to the 2.4Ghz SSID, despite using the same SSID and password.
    1. I had to fiddle around with the Wifi Setup screen, by changing and reverting the authentication method, re-entering the password, and rebooting multiple times. I really hope this doesn't become a recurring thing.
    2. It's hard to tell when the updated settings are actually "sticking". Clicking "Apply" at the bottom does not seem to do anything without subsequently clicking "Reboot", at the top.
  4. The 5GHz-2 band is running way hotter than any of the other radios and the CPU. It hovers around 75F, and spikes up to over 100F
    1. Screenshot attached
  5. The 5Ghz-2 band SSID is not visible to any devices.
    1. SSID is marked as visible in Network Info. Screenshot attached.
    2. I tested multiple devices, including a late-model iPad Pro that supports 5Ghz and 6Ghz Wifi 6E
      1. Is it possible to enable the 5Ghz-2 band, and ideally have it share the SSID with the 5Ghz-1 band? If not, it'd be good to know how to disable it. This would reduce the heat generated.

Thanks in advance!
 

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Side note: when switching between stock and GNUton firmware you should do a factory reset after installing the new firmware. Although I doubt that has anything to do with your issues.

First, go back to stock firmware (and do a factory reset). Then check to see if you have the same issues. If you do then it's possible you have faulty hardware and it should be returned.

Only after verifying that it operates as expected with stock firmware should you move to GNUton's firmware.

No, you cannot disable the 5Ghz-2 band and reuse its channel allocation for 5Ghz-1.
 
Thanks for the reply!

I flashed the latest stock firmware earlier this morning, and did a Factory Reset shortly afterwards.

I re-configured all of the settings as I originally described in my original post.

Unfortunately, the stock firmware does not have the temperature tracking, so I couldn't find a way to see if the temperature got better.

I also don't see the 5GHZ-2 SSID, nor an option to disable it.

Wondering if I am seeing limited settings since I am in Access Point mode.

I have not re-flashed to GNUton. I am fine staying on the stock firmware if need be, given my use case.

Thanks again!
 
Wondering if I am seeing limited settings since I am in Access Point mode.
In Access Point mode certain features and options are hidden or not used. PS: For example the Operations Mode page may have the following language when one selects Access Point mode: "In this mode, the firewall, IP sharing, and NAT functions are disabled by default."
 
Thanks everyone. I certainly understand that functions in Access Point mode are limited. I would have thought that there would be an option to disable the different Wi-Fi bands somehow.

I am out of town for most of this week, so I will try to post a log towards the end of this week.
 
There is. The option is on the Wireless - Professional page and is called Enable Radio.
Ah, got it. I will check that tab out when I get back home. I am still on the latest stock firmware.

If the 5Ghz-2 band isn't able to be repurposed to be useful (preferably with the same SSID as my 5Ghz-1), then I would just turn it off to keep the heat down.

I will post the log first, though.
 
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System Log attached. Apologies for the delay. This is after running on the latest stock firmware for just over 2 weeks. The ZenWifi XT8 has been running without incident for this time period, though I haven't done any additional speed or range tests

I have also attached screenshots of the Wireless --> Professional Tab. I had not made any modifications.

I am happy to re-flash with Gnuton firmware and post a log after a few days if that will provide additional information.

To recap, I am looking to utilize the 5Ghz-2 band instead of (or in addition to) the 5Ghz band, since that's the one that has the 4x4 antenna config. However, I do not see this SSID appearing as available on any of my mobile devices. If this is not possible, I will disable the 5Ghz-2 band, since it was running very hot, per Gnuton.

This means I will end up with essentially the same Radio Configuration as my RT-AC56U (2.4Ghz 2x2 and 5Ghz 2x2), and will essentially be running an AX1800 setup (up from AC1200). I will inherit the benefits of being on Wifi 6, using a non-EOL device, as well as real-world speed increases of approximately 25-50%.
 

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Ah, my apologies. I saw that tab, but forgot to copy-and-paste the contents here. Wireless Log contents pasted below. Thanks again!

EDIT: From a quick glance, it looks like where it should show the info for SSID Home Dundalk 5_2, it's showing "SSID: "" " in the log. The Configuration for this SSID is depicted in one of the attachments in Post #1.

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Code:
SSID: "Home Dundalk"
noise: -80 dBm    Channel: 3
BSSID: C8:7F:54:15:77:A0    Capability: ESS ShortSlot RRM
Supported Rates: [ 1(b) 2(b) 5.5(b) 6 9 11(b) 12 18 24 36 48 54 ]
HE Capable:
    Chanspec: 2.4GHz channel 3 20MHz (0x1003)
    Primary channel: 3
    HT Capabilities: 40Mhz SGI20 SGI40
    Supported HT MCS : 0-15
    Supported VHT MCS:
        NSS1 Tx: 0-11        Rx: 0-11    
        NSS2 Tx: 0-11        Rx: 0-11    
    Supported HE MCS:
        80 Mhz:
        NSS1 Tx: 0-11        Rx: 0-11
        NSS2 Tx: 0-11        Rx: 0-11
QBSS Channel Utilization: 0x29 (16 %)

Interference Level: Acceptable
Mode    : AP Only

Stations List                          
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idx MAC               Associated Authorized   RSSI PHY PSM SGI STBC MUBF NSS   BW Tx rate Rx rate Connect Time
    CC:27:46:61:45:AD Yes        Yes        -55dBm ax  No  Yes No   No     2  20M  146.2M   34.4M     01:27:38
    64:52:99:4A:C5:F8 Yes        Yes        -59dBm n   No  No  Yes  No     1  20M     65M     39M     01:27:59
    AC:E2:D3:B0:B9:00 Yes        Yes        -46dBm n   No  Yes No   No     1  20M     65M   72.2M     01:28:00
    48:A2:E6:17:D0:41 Yes        Yes        -44dBm n   No  No  Yes  No     1  20M     65M     65M     01:28:03

SSID: "Home Dundalk 5"
noise: -83 dBm    Channel: 44/80
BSSID: C8:7F:54:15:77:A4    Capability: ESS RRM
Supported Rates: [ 6(b) 9 12 18 24(b) 36 48 54 ]
HE Capable:
    Chanspec: 5GHz channel 42 80MHz (0xe22a)
    Primary channel: 44
    HT Capabilities: 40Mhz SGI20 SGI40
    Supported HT MCS : 0-15
    Supported VHT MCS:
        NSS1 Tx: 0-11        Rx: 0-11    
        NSS2 Tx: 0-11        Rx: 0-11    
    Supported HE MCS:
        80 Mhz:
        NSS1 Tx: 0-11        Rx: 0-11
        NSS2 Tx: 0-11        Rx: 0-11
QBSS Channel Utilization: 0x23 (13 %)

Interference Level: Acceptable
Mode    : AP Only

DFS status: state IDLE time elapsed 0ms radar channel cleared by DFS none

Channel Information                    
----------------------------------------
Channel 36    A Band
Channel 40    A Band
Channel 44    A Band
Channel 48    A Band

Stations List                          
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idx MAC               Associated Authorized   RSSI PHY PSM SGI STBC MUBF NSS   BW Tx rate Rx rate Connect Time
    E0:94:67:33:73:EA Yes        Yes        -49dBm ac  No  Yes Yes  No     1  80M    325M  433.3M     00:01:07
    F6:72:50:B0:63:C3 Yes        Yes        -40dBm ac  Yes Yes No   No     2  80M  866.7M    780M     00:24:13
    84:8E:0C:B4:E1:E5 Yes        Yes        -69dBm n   Yes Yes Yes  No     2  40M    243M     24M     01:26:58
    C2:E3:0B:B9:A4:C4 Yes        Yes        -49dBm ac  Yes Yes Yes  Yes    1  80M  292.5M      6M     01:28:03

SSID: ""
noise: -101 dBm    Channel: 100
BSSID: 00:00:00:00:00:00    Capability: RRM
Supported Rates: [ 6(b) 9 12 18 24(b) 36 48 54 ]
HE Capable:
    Chanspec: 5GHz channel 100 20MHz (0xd064)
    Primary channel: 100
    HT Capabilities: 40Mhz SGI20 SGI40
    Supported HT MCS : 0-31
    Supported VHT MCS:
        NSS1 Tx: 0-11        Rx: 0-11    
        NSS2 Tx:     --      Rx: 0-11    
        NSS3 Tx:     --      Rx: 0-11    
        NSS4 Tx:     --      Rx: 0-11    
    Negotiated HE MCS:
        80 Mhz:
        NSS1 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS2 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS3 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS4 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS5 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS6 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS7 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS8 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        160 Mhz:
        NSS1 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS2 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS3 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS4 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS5 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS6 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS7 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS8 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        80+80 Mhz:
        NSS1 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS2 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS3 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS4 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS5 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS6 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS7 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS8 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
QBSS Channel Utilization: 0xff (100 %)

Interference Level: Acceptable
Mode    : AP Only

DFS status: state IDLE time elapsed 0ms radar channel cleared by DFS none

Channel Information                    
----------------------------------------
Channel 100    A Band, RADAR Sensitive, Passive
Channel 104    A Band, RADAR Sensitive, Passive
Channel 108    A Band, RADAR Sensitive, Passive
Channel 112    A Band, RADAR Sensitive, Passive
Channel 116    A Band, RADAR Sensitive, Passive
Channel 120    A Band, RADAR Sensitive, Passive
Channel 124    A Band, RADAR Sensitive, Passive
Channel 128    A Band, RADAR Sensitive, Passive
Channel 132    A Band, RADAR Sensitive, Passive
Channel 136    A Band, RADAR Sensitive, Passive
Channel 140    A Band, RADAR Sensitive, Passive
Channel 144    A Band, RADAR Sensitive, Passive
Channel 149    A Band
Channel 153    A Band
Channel 157    A Band
Channel 161    A Band
Channel 165    A Band
Channel 169    A Band
Channel 173    A Band
Channel 177    A Band

Stations List                          
----------------------------------------
idx MAC               Associated Authorized   RSSI PHY PSM SGI STBC MUBF NSS   BW Tx rate Rx rate Connect Time
 
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Ah, my apologies. I saw that tab, but forgot to copy-and-paste the contents here. Wireless Log contents pasted below. Thanks again!

EDIT: From a quick glance, it looks like where it should show the info for SSID Home Dundalk 5_2, it's showing "SSID: "" " in the log. The Configuration for this SSID is depicted in one of the attachments in Post #1.

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Code:
SSID: "Home Dundalk"
noise: -80 dBm    Channel: 3
BSSID: C8:7F:54:15:77:A0    Capability: ESS ShortSlot RRM
Supported Rates: [ 1(b) 2(b) 5.5(b) 6 9 11(b) 12 18 24 36 48 54 ]
HE Capable:
    Chanspec: 2.4GHz channel 3 20MHz (0x1003)
    Primary channel: 3
    HT Capabilities: 40Mhz SGI20 SGI40
    Supported HT MCS : 0-15
    Supported VHT MCS:
        NSS1 Tx: 0-11        Rx: 0-11   
        NSS2 Tx: 0-11        Rx: 0-11   
    Supported HE MCS:
        80 Mhz:
        NSS1 Tx: 0-11        Rx: 0-11
        NSS2 Tx: 0-11        Rx: 0-11
QBSS Channel Utilization: 0x29 (16 %)

Interference Level: Acceptable
Mode    : AP Only

Stations List                         
----------------------------------------
idx MAC               Associated Authorized   RSSI PHY PSM SGI STBC MUBF NSS   BW Tx rate Rx rate Connect Time
    CC:27:46:61:45:AD Yes        Yes        -55dBm ax  No  Yes No   No     2  20M  146.2M   34.4M     01:27:38
    64:52:99:4A:C5:F8 Yes        Yes        -59dBm n   No  No  Yes  No     1  20M     65M     39M     01:27:59
    AC:E2:D3:B0:B9:00 Yes        Yes        -46dBm n   No  Yes No   No     1  20M     65M   72.2M     01:28:00
    48:A2:E6:17:D0:41 Yes        Yes        -44dBm n   No  No  Yes  No     1  20M     65M     65M     01:28:03

SSID: "Home Dundalk 5"
noise: -83 dBm    Channel: 44/80
BSSID: C8:7F:54:15:77:A4    Capability: ESS RRM
Supported Rates: [ 6(b) 9 12 18 24(b) 36 48 54 ]
HE Capable:
    Chanspec: 5GHz channel 42 80MHz (0xe22a)
    Primary channel: 44
    HT Capabilities: 40Mhz SGI20 SGI40
    Supported HT MCS : 0-15
    Supported VHT MCS:
        NSS1 Tx: 0-11        Rx: 0-11   
        NSS2 Tx: 0-11        Rx: 0-11   
    Supported HE MCS:
        80 Mhz:
        NSS1 Tx: 0-11        Rx: 0-11
        NSS2 Tx: 0-11        Rx: 0-11
QBSS Channel Utilization: 0x23 (13 %)

Interference Level: Acceptable
Mode    : AP Only

DFS status: state IDLE time elapsed 0ms radar channel cleared by DFS none

Channel Information                   
----------------------------------------
Channel 36    A Band
Channel 40    A Band
Channel 44    A Band
Channel 48    A Band

Stations List                         
----------------------------------------
idx MAC               Associated Authorized   RSSI PHY PSM SGI STBC MUBF NSS   BW Tx rate Rx rate Connect Time
    E0:94:67:33:73:EA Yes        Yes        -49dBm ac  No  Yes Yes  No     1  80M    325M  433.3M     00:01:07
    F6:72:50:B0:63:C3 Yes        Yes        -40dBm ac  Yes Yes No   No     2  80M  866.7M    780M     00:24:13
    84:8E:0C:B4:E1:E5 Yes        Yes        -69dBm n   Yes Yes Yes  No     2  40M    243M     24M     01:26:58
    C2:E3:0B:B9:A4:C4 Yes        Yes        -49dBm ac  Yes Yes Yes  Yes    1  80M  292.5M      6M     01:28:03

SSID: ""
noise: -101 dBm    Channel: 100
BSSID: 00:00:00:00:00:00    Capability: RRM
Supported Rates: [ 6(b) 9 12 18 24(b) 36 48 54 ]
HE Capable:
    Chanspec: 5GHz channel 100 20MHz (0xd064)
    Primary channel: 100
    HT Capabilities: 40Mhz SGI20 SGI40
    Supported HT MCS : 0-31
    Supported VHT MCS:
        NSS1 Tx: 0-11        Rx: 0-11   
        NSS2 Tx:     --      Rx: 0-11   
        NSS3 Tx:     --      Rx: 0-11   
        NSS4 Tx:     --      Rx: 0-11   
    Negotiated HE MCS:
        80 Mhz:
        NSS1 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS2 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS3 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS4 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS5 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS6 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS7 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS8 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        160 Mhz:
        NSS1 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS2 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS3 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS4 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS5 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS6 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS7 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS8 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        80+80 Mhz:
        NSS1 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS2 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS3 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS4 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS5 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS6 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS7 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
        NSS8 Tx: 0-7         Rx: 0-7
QBSS Channel Utilization: 0xff (100 %)

Interference Level: Acceptable
Mode    : AP Only

DFS status: state IDLE time elapsed 0ms radar channel cleared by DFS none

Channel Information                   
----------------------------------------
Channel 100    A Band, RADAR Sensitive, Passive
Channel 104    A Band, RADAR Sensitive, Passive
Channel 108    A Band, RADAR Sensitive, Passive
Channel 112    A Band, RADAR Sensitive, Passive
Channel 116    A Band, RADAR Sensitive, Passive
Channel 120    A Band, RADAR Sensitive, Passive
Channel 124    A Band, RADAR Sensitive, Passive
Channel 128    A Band, RADAR Sensitive, Passive
Channel 132    A Band, RADAR Sensitive, Passive
Channel 136    A Band, RADAR Sensitive, Passive
Channel 140    A Band, RADAR Sensitive, Passive
Channel 144    A Band, RADAR Sensitive, Passive
Channel 149    A Band
Channel 153    A Band
Channel 157    A Band
Channel 161    A Band
Channel 165    A Band
Channel 169    A Band
Channel 173    A Band
Channel 177    A Band

Stations List                         
----------------------------------------
idx MAC               Associated Authorized   RSSI PHY PSM SGI STBC MUBF NSS   BW Tx rate Rx rate Connect Time
Thanks for the info. That confirms that the 5GHz-2 radio is broken. As I suggested in post #2, you should have returned it to the seller for a refund.
 
Thanks for the info. That confirms that the 5GHz-2 radio is broken. As I suggested in post #2, you should have returned it to the seller for a refund.
Thanks for confirming. That's a bummer to hear. I am wondering if doing the Hard Reset procedure in Post #9 is worth a shot. My other thought, due to the temperatures I was initially seeing the GNUton, is that the 5Ghz-2 band somehow fried itself.

I will likely disable the 5GHz-2 band and re-flash GNUton some time this weekend, and leave it at that.

I bought it locally secondhand for less than $50, so I can't return it. As I mentioned in post #11, even as an AX1800 access point, I feel I still got my money's worth.

Thanks again @ColinTaylor for all of your help and guidance!
 
Thanks for confirming. That's a bummer to hear. I am wondering if doing the Hard Reset procedure in Post #9 is worth a shot.
TBH I'd assumed you'd already tried that. So yes, do that now and see if it fixes the problem.

My other thought, due to the temperatures I was initially seeing the GNUton, is that the 5Ghz-2 band somehow fried itself.
The reported high temperatures could indeed be an indication of a hardware fault. But that wouldn't have been caused by the firmware. I suppose it's remotely possible that the contact between the 5GHz-2 chip and its heatsink has failed causing it to rapidly overheat. The chip should have thermal protection but I didn't see any evidence of that triggering in your log file. You could try taking the case off and blasting with cold air and at the same time seeing if the 5GHz-2 band comes back after a reboot.
 
Update on the situation: I am pretty sure the XT8 is defective. I have reverted to my RT-A56U for the time being.

Last week, my Wi-Fi Thermostat and Garage door opener (both on the 2.4Ghz band) reported being offline. It turns out the XT8 was intermittently dropping the 2.4Ghz band. It may be heat related, since it was a hot day, and the reported ambient temperature in the room was 80°F.

And then this past Friday, I spent quite a while doing hard and soft resets, as well as flashing GNUton firmware, in an attempt to get the 5GHz-2 band to work.

Things are actually a bit worse than when I originally set up the router. Now, GNUton just says "disabled" for the 5Ghz-2 band, instead of giving a temperature graph.

Even if I did get the 5Ghz-2 band to work, I don't want to risk having a flakey 2.4Ghz band.

Oh well. I guess it can be put away and eventually repurposed as a wired router/microcomputer or a 5GHz-1 media bridge or something.
 

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