Off-topic posts from the 380.60 Beta thread

[L&LD]

I don't see how your setup with the QOS would work because there is a known bug that all VPN traffic shows up as upload.
By you having 3 vpn clients and 2 VPN servers running there is no way your QOS is going to do anything but nothing
AUSUS QOS and VPN just don't work together. I have been complaining about it for a while now. I even wrote to ASUS and they acknowledged the bug but as they said
this is an OLD BUG that we know about, but obviously are doing nothing about it.
Unless with .60 they miraculously fixed it.
Very curious to know.

I don't know if it 'should' work or not, but when I test with QoS off it is obviously slower (higher latency) in my network.

 

[Farns]

Would the AC68U version of this work on the RT-AC1900 router shown here:

http://www.snbforums.com/threads/rt-ac-1900p-at-best-buy.33156

The AC68U is also an AC1900 router, so I wasn't sure whether they are technically close enough for this to work.

 

[RMerlin]

Would the AC68U version of this work on the RT-AC1900 router shown here:

http://www.snbforums.com/threads/rt-ac-1900p-at-best-buy.33156

The AC68U is also an AC1900 router, so I wasn't sure whether they are technically close enough for this to work.

Yes, the RT-AC1900P is compatible with the RT-AC68U. I was waiting for confirmation from Asus about it, which they confirmed last night.

 

[Farns]

Yes, the RT-AC1900P is compatible with the RT-AC68U. I was waiting for confirmation from Asus about it, which they confirmed last night.

Awesome! Look's like I'm headed to Best Buy for lunch

 

[L&LD]

Yes, the RT-AC1900P is compatible with the RT-AC68U. I was waiting for confirmation from Asus about it, which they confirmed last night.

That is great news. I too may have to haunt BestBuy and see if I run into an RT-AC1900P.

Has anyone else flashed 380.60 Beta 2 on an RT-AC1900P yet?

 

[jsmiddleton4]

AC-1900P

So is this basically what they did with the 68P?

 

[RMerlin]

AC-1900P

So is this basically what they did with the 68P?

More or less, yes. Same CPU as the RT-AC68U HW revision C1, but with the CPU clock @ 1.4 GHz instead of 1 GHz.

 

[Farns]

Just bought the RT-AC1900P at Best Buy. It came with 3.0.0.4.380.1842, so I flashed 3.0.0.4.380.3264 and then RT-AC68U_380.60_beta2. I'm still at work, so it's not currently operating as a router or anything, but the flashes went through just fine. I'll hopefully be able to finish configuring it tonight after doing the grass and going out to dinner.

The only scary part is that the CPU is reading like 73 degrees Celsius. I don't know what's normal, and unfortunately I failed to check it before flashing the beta, but that seems high for idle temps. If you think that's too high Merlin, I can flash back to stock and see if that helps or if it makes no difference.

 

[MarkRH]

The only scary part is that the CPU is reading like 73 degrees Celsius. I don't know what's normal, and unfortunately I failed to check it before flashing the beta, but that seems high for idle temps. If you think that's too high Merlin, I can flash back to stock and see if that helps or if it makes no difference.

My RT-AC68U with 800 Mhz CPU has run around 68 to 71C for the 1.5 years I've had it, with all wireless disabled and not much going on. So, 73C seems fine to me. That CPU is faster and you probably have wireless going.

 

[yorgi]

I don't know if it 'should' work or not, but when I test with QoS off it is obviously slower (higher latency) in my network.

Well make a quick test and see for yourself.
Download any large file while on your VPN client and go to adaptive QOS then App analysis and see if your download traffic shows up as download or upload
if it shows up as upload its not been fixed and there is no way that the QOS can work properly if there is local ISP and VPN traffic at the same time.
When the QOS see's vpn download traffic as upload it will give priority to the VPN because by default the QOS is setup to prioritize upload traffic therefore everything else will suffer. So anyone that is using VPN and Local ISP rules DO NOT USE QOS
ASUS is doing nothing about it. I find that a bit bizarre because they really boost the QOS feature in their promotional ads and the joke is it doesn't work.
Oh how I think marketing hipsters are full of s***

Here is the quote on the ASUS rep that I privately messaged. I will keep his name out of it.

My question,

"I have a concern about the QOS from ASUS and I was wondering if ASUS is planning on doing anything about it.
When I connect to the VPN all downloads show up as Uploads in the QOS bandwidth meter.
this is the same for every router ASUS router made.

Is ASUS aware? are they planning on a fix for this?
its very annoying trying to setup a proper network when the heart is not working right.

If you can suggest a place where I can complain to ASUS that would be great"

This is the reply

"Hi Yorgi,

Yes, it's old bug, I have contacted with TrendMicro before, but we have no plan to solve it now, I am occupying other schedule now."

I find that answer ridiculous because they spend crazy amounts of time making icons look pretty instead of facing the music and fixing the major problems
as this QOS bug is a really a big problem and they are basically doing nothing about it.

Oh but they like taking your money on the new router that has a QOS that is garbage, and hope people won't know the problem is there
so they just put it in "things to do" and do nothing about it.
I wish everyone would complain about this bug because as I see it I am the only one.

Makes me think of Microsoft windows 10, Microsoft will do whatever people want to save their windows OS. LOL
Why don't they add a queuing system in their file manager is beyond me.
An Operating system is all about file management and windows file manager sucks, I feel sorry for anyone that has to move flies around in different directories because by having a Queuing option in play one can copy and move all kinds of data from any directory unattended. They put a pause button but what about a auto play?
Why they don't add this feature is beyond me. I guess MS thinks most people are stupid and they don't know how to use windows file explorer.
But what about the tons that can use it, well its probably in MS things to do as well.
Flash FXP does it and most FTP programs so why not windows, mac or any other system for that matter?
I can answer that, power users are the people that always suffer in the end because the average user would probably never use a file manager because it scares them.
LOL

I can't believe how companies take advantage of marketing schemes and we are the suckers who fall into their trap.
And the power users well they are the first to discover bugs and the last to ever see them get fixed

 

[L&LD]

Well make a quick test and see for yourself.
Download any large file while on your VPN client and go to adaptive QOS then App analysis and see if your download traffic shows up as download or upload
if it shows up as upload its not been fixed and there is no way that the QOS can work properly if there is local ISP and VPN traffic at the same time.
When the QOS see's vpn download traffic as upload it will give priority to the VPN because by default the QOS is setup to prioritize upload traffic therefore everything else will suffer.

First, I guess I do not care about seeing traffic statistics (I do not enable those features). Secondly, I don't use VPN like that (I do not download large files over VPN).

Like I said, when QoS is on (Adaptive QoS), the internet connection has less latency. With it off, the latency is noticeable to me on my main system. So for me, it seems to work. YMMV.

 

[yorgi]

First, I guess I do not care about seeing traffic statistics (I do not enable those features). Secondly, I don't use VPN like that (I do not download large files over VPN).

Like I said, when QoS is on (Adaptive QoS), the internet connection has less latency. With it off, the latency is noticeable to me on my main system. So for me, it seems to work. YMMV.

The traffic statistics just shows you where your packets are being allocated.
The bug is not the statistics, its the actual QOS.
Do tests and you will see

 

[agh1701]

Hey RMerlin,

Thanks for you work! I have an RT-AC190 (new box rev C1) and have no problems with beta1 running dnscrypt and openvpn. Great job! I think people often forget to tell you when things are running good.

One question, I only have 8 channels or 2 80mhz sets available in the US. Do you know if ASUS plans to make the rest (all per current FCC rules) when they finalize the new protection?

 

[andreyMS]

DLNA in general is simply a mess, as a lot of clients are flat out broken. Take any commercial DLNA server, and look how many workarounds and hacks they have to implement for specific clients. There's no way a low-resource, embedded solution such as minidlna can implement all of those workarounds.

Minidlna is simply a victim of all those broken clients. Take any firmware version, and there's always at least one client that is broken with it. 380.59 also had complains. And 380.58 as well. So, versions that worked for one person was broken for another.

All of these versions always worked fine whenever I tested them with either Plugplayer (on Android) or Windows Media Player (on Windows). Smart TVs implementations tend to be abysmal (starting with Samsung).

If your Smart TV has problems with minidlna, then you will have to switch to a more advanced DLNA server than minidlna, which will hopefully implement workarounds for your specific client.

Really? I appreciate your hard work and your firmware is great.. but.. I don't know Why ASUS brings to market a router that the services simply does not works.
I can't use Mimo
I cant' use mini dlna in my Smart TV (Sony) and ps4 .. (I think that is the purpose of the service, not in a Media player or a Android)..
Big HDDs does not works well..
I big transfer of files can crashes the router..
A lot of issues with VPN, 5GHz disconnections..
and a lot of money payed for a lot of headache

 

[L&LD]

Really? I appreciate your hard work and your firmware is great.. but.. I don't know Why ASUS brings to market a router that the services simply does not works.
I can't use Mimo
I cant' use mini dlna in my Smart TV (Sony) and ps4 .. (I think that is the purpose of the service, not in a Media player or a Android)..
Big HDDs does not works well..
I big transfer of files can crashes the router..
A lot of issues with VPN, 5GHz disconnections..
and a lot of money payed for a lot of headache

What router are you trying to do all that on? What firmware version? Any other customizations?