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Livin

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I was just asked by T-Mo to return the TM-AC1900 they 'loaned me'. I flashed Merlin on it and wondering if it is even worth it to flash it back to stock... meaning, will they know and give me grief about it?

Anyone have any idea?

thx!

side note: strange how they are not smart enough just to sell it to us for $50. I'm not paying their asking price of $100 and I suspect most dont since there is a flood of refurbs on sale all the time.
 
TM apparently wants to limit their liability since they've given up pretending they have any intention of offering support for the router. They're really tired of blowing people off, by telling them to call Asus (or even Apple?!). Asus is very unhappy with them and since this wasn't part of their marketing stream, they rightly won't touch this. This unfortunately makes this an end of life model, unless you 'own' it or buy a refurb/recert or new unit from a vendor on Amazon, and convert it to Asus or Merlin FW. and if you do, be sure to invest in the square trade policy, so if the unit dies in 2-4 years, at least you'll get a gift card out of the deal. Once the remaining supplies are gone, there will be none to be had. Asus could solve the issue and pickup up the support of new-in-the-box-models (if an owner converted them to official Asus firmware), but since that wasn't part of the deal with TMobile, there's no money in it for Asus, and thus, no support. The tragedy of marketing blunders makes it tough for the end-user.

TM apparently has been dumping all remaining back-stock and returns that accumulate and offer them in lots to refurbishing vendors who are now selling these as refurb/recert or open-box or unopened-new units online. The latest one I bought has a manual that states Asus is to be contacted for support (a falshood) and to upgrade to the official Asus firmware. Unfortunately, most vendors are not going through the steps of the down-grade and what it takes to enable the CFE to be expanded, so the official Asus firmware will run ou of the box. It's still a great buy if you can snag one unopened in the original box.

As for an idea (what you asked for) you can take the high road, offer to pay TM the $50 they were charging TM customers and the general public during Christmas of 2016, and additionally resolve TM of any further responsibility for Cell Spot, their questionable tactics or upgrades; good luck with that, unless you get with their management, it probably won't fly. I've heard that others tell them anything similar to that the dog ate it, it was stolen, Scotty beamed it up, whatever your own conscience dictates, since they really do want out from under the liability blanket.

While the router will still sort of work on their system with the stock firmware, TM has other dedicated mobile Cell Spot units they support, and I'm a bit surprised they haven't offered people a swap. They want to make the whole 1900 saga go away, like it never happened. It's difficult to haggle with mega-companies who don't care about their customers, and 'loan' them units they know are end of life when they are shipped. No one has thought this was worth a class-action suit that I can discover. If your conscience allows you to find the right remedy, I'd keep it if you're happy with it, or buy a new on from one of the vendors on Amazon and take advantage of the still-good price; reflash and continue to enjoy one that you really do own, without any TM pretense. Hope that gives you an idea that helps. Cheers.
 
TM apparently wants to limit their liability since they've given up pretending they have any intention of offering support for the router. They're really tired of blowing people off, by telling them to call Asus (or even Apple?!). Asus is very unhappy with them and since this wasn't part of their marketing stream, they rightly won't touch this. This unfortunately makes this an end of life model, unless you 'own' it or buy a refurb/recert or new unit from a vendor on Amazon, and convert it to Asus or Merlin FW. and if you do, be sure to invest in the square trade policy, so if the unit dies in 2-4 years, at least you'll get a gift card out of the deal. Once the remaining supplies are gone, there will be none to be had. Asus could solve the issue and pickup up the support of new-in-the-box-models (if an owner converted them to official Asus firmware), but since that wasn't part of the deal with TMobile, there's no money in it for Asus, and thus, no support. The tragedy of marketing blunders makes it tough for the end-user.

TM apparently has been dumping all remaining back-stock and returns that accumulate and offer them in lots to refurbishing vendors who are now selling these as refurb/recert or open-box or unopened-new units online. The latest one I bought has a manual that states Asus is to be contacted for support (a falshood) and to upgrade to the official Asus firmware. Unfortunately, most vendors are not going through the steps of the down-grade and what it takes to enable the CFE to be expanded, so the official Asus firmware will run ou of the box. It's still a great buy if you can snag one unopened in the original box.

As for an idea (what you asked for) you can take the high road, offer to pay TM the $50 they were charging TM customers and the general public during Christmas of 2016, and additionally resolve TM of any further responsibility for Cell Spot, their questionable tactics or upgrades; good luck with that, unless you get with their management, it probably won't fly. I've heard that others tell them anything similar to that the dog ate it, it was stolen, Scotty beamed it up, whatever your own conscience dictates, since they really do want out from under the liability blanket.

While the router will still sort of work on their system with the stock firmware, TM has other dedicated mobile Cell Spot units they support, and I'm a bit surprised they haven't offered people a swap. They want to make the whole 1900 saga go away, like it never happened. It's difficult to haggle with mega-companies who don't care about their customers, and 'loan' them units they know are end of life when they are shipped. No one has thought this was worth a class-action suit that I can discover. If your conscience allows you to find the right remedy, I'd keep it if you're happy with it, or buy a new on from one of the vendors on Amazon and take advantage of the still-good price; reflash and continue to enjoy one that you really do own, without any TM pretense. Hope that gives you an idea that helps. Cheers.

Surprisingly, last week I was looking on T-Mobile's accessories site online, and spotted the TM-1900. It said pre-owned and factory refurbished.

The TM link said $49 but it discounted down to $8.95 once I logged in. I put 3 in the cart and it worked! They came the other day, and all appear to be brand new in the same OG box my first one came in 3 years ago.. Not too bad, I got all 3 shipped to my door for $28 and some change.

I've been looking for a couple days for the link, cause I was going to buy as many as I could. However, it appears they're completely gone. They've been 100% scrubbed from T-mo's website.

Is it possible I got the last of the TM-AC1900 routers??

LOL.
 
Mrwirez, You dropped by the TMobile site at the right time for sure. It's likely the final batches of these are making their final journey through the chain. Ebay sellers are still hawking them, the regular third-party vendors on Amazon still have small caches of them, but fewer sellers to choose from. Tanga had a small lot for $20-$30 and they went fast. Now you have backup routers, or spares on hand, so if/when AIMesh matures, you'll be ready, or can quickly turn a nice profit selling them as-is. Given the current speculation that's been driving the prices up to over $100 on Ebay in a few cases, it makes Amazon the last best/safe place to grab a router that isn't a recycled return of a refurbished that was sent back to a vendor. There a are a few units that look as if they weren't tested or have made it back after people returned them to the sellers. Some of them are just people who aren't up to converting, and they send them back to Amazon. With Amazon's fulfillment and free Prime shipping, plus a buyer gets at least a 90-day warranty, if you get a Square Trade policy for a couple of bucks, at least you can get your purchase back if the router dies in a year or two, which makes $60-$71 a good enough price, but the limit I'd pay for one.

One of the Amazon vendors I purchased from couldn't speak or understand much English and didn't have any ideas about the furbishing or firmware on what he sold. When vendors don't return an email from the buyer or Amazon, they likely aren't certified-refurbishers, but bought in whatever amounts were possible after TMobile's were contractors finished.

If the figures are accurate, Amazon vendors sold about 200 more in January than were on hand at the first of the year. If those resellers got deals similar to what you lucked into, they're making a tidy bit of change. TMobile wouldn't sell more than two routers to anyone last year, or we'd all have bought several. Since the routers could only be converted or scrapped, it's likely that we're seeing the last lots getting into the market.

The last two of these I converted were good and one was never opened, but if I couldn't have bought it through Amazon, I wouldn't have paid more than $70. TMobile is selling off their follow on cell-spot units that came after the TMAC1900, but very few people want them since they aren't routers, but strictly LTE units. Thanks to TM's marketing process and abysmal firmware support, a great thank you is owed to the wizards who fine-tuned the conversion process, making it possible for so many people to own a great Asus router for what amounts to peanuts.
 
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Mrwirez, You dropped by the TMobile site at the right time for sure. It's likely the final batches of these are making their final journey through the chain. Ebay sellers are still hawking them, the regular third-party vendors on Amazon still have small caches of them, but fewer sellers to choose from. Tanga had a small lot for $20-$30 and they went fast. Now you have backup routers, or spares on hand, so if/when AIMesh matures, you'll be ready, or can quickly turn a nice profit selling them as-is. Given the current speculation that's been driving the prices up to over $100 on Ebay in a few cases, it makes Amazon the last best/safe place to grab a router that isn't a recycled return of a refurbished that was sent back to a vendor. There a are a few units that look as if they weren't tested or have made it back after people returned them to the sellers. Some of them are just people who aren't up to converting, and they send them back to Amazon. With Amazon's fulfillment and free Prime shipping, plus a buyer gets at least a 90-day warranty, if you get a Square Trade policy for a couple of bucks, at least you can get your purchase back if the router dies in a year or two, which makes $60-$71 a good enough price, but the limit I'd pay for one.

One of the Amazon vendors I purchased from was absolutely clueless; couldn't speak or understand much English and knew nothing about refurbishing or firmware. When vendors don't return an email from the buyer or Amazon, they aren't the certified-refurbishers, but the middleman who bought lots after TMobile's contractors finished re-flashing, cleaning and boxing up the take backs.

If the sales numbers are accurate, Amazon vendors sold about 200 more in January than were on hand at the first of the year. If those resellers got deals similar to what you lucked into, they're making a tidy bit of change. TMobile wouldn't sell more than two routers to anyone last year, or we'd all have bought several. Since the routers could only be converted or scrapped, it's likely that we're seeing the last lots getting into the market.

The last two of these I converted were good and one was never opened, but if I couldn't have bought it through Amazon, I wouldn't have paid more than $70. TMobile is selling off their follow on cell-spot units that came after the TMAC1900, but very few people want them since they aren't routers, but strictly LTE units. Thanks to TM's marketing process and abysmal firmware support, a great thank you is owed to the wizards who fine-tuned the conversion process, making it possible for so many people to own a great Asus router for what amounts to peanuts.

Wow! That was a lot. :)

You are correct. When I checked for the Cellspot last week it was not easy to find, so I saved the TM link in 2 different places. This morning I tried again, and got a redirect to general accessories... I think they're gone. Like I said, T-Mo scrubbed all links except for support documents.

Interestingly, is that I just remembered that I found a conversation about the OG slickdeals link in a T-Mo forum that escalated up the T-Mo management food-chain about support for this router, and the battle between T-Mo and Asus.

Apparently, the Cellspot router was never supposed to be sold to the general public. A commenter was mad about getting the run around about support, so he posted the original slick-deals link. T-Mo Support "claimed" they had no clue the routers were being sold to non T-Mo customers. That was 2 days before I ordered mine & now a week later, they are all gone... Interesting!

Just an FYI.. I flashed my 3 year old TM-AC 1900 a while ago, and it's now part of my AiMesh with my AC3100 and my new AC86U. This morning I flashed all 3 new ones to AC68U models. I kept them at the ASUS FW 3004.376.3626 that's the FW that expands the storage from 32Gb to 64Gb, along with the 1.0.2.1_US bootloader which unlocks the clocks for the CPU & RAM. I just gave 'em a little bump up to 1000MHz and 800MHz... Just enough. I'm gonna box them up and leave them there for the time being.

So I'm keeping 2 of the 3 new ones. 1 is a spare and another I'm going to try to add to my Aimesh system. (I heard there maybe problems with these w/ more than one)..

The 3rd one is going to my youngest brother, as he just gave me a brand new DELL Poweredge T610 Server that's all loaded up.. He's an IT guy that works from home. His company gave him a bunch of new-but-older servers when they moved from Pittsburgh to Boston.

Good trade though... I guess I got lucky twice.
:p
 
Mrwirez, You're definitely 'meshed-out' now:) Didn't intend to run on so. I have to dictate instead of type and a post that seems to only take a minute looks like war and pizza on the page after it's pasted in. The moderator approval is becoming standard now, no doubt to the volume of DDOS and spam attacks, so it pops up often. The mods are good guys:) Am thinking about snagging another one if I can find one in the white/pink TM-box, not the 3rd party brown-box units. For that matter, the extra $25 gets you a new Asus RT-1750_B1 with no fiddling required, it's on the Mesh list, the specs/cpu is same even if the 2.4 MHz band is a wee bit slower.

I've wondered if power sags/hits while converting has caused some of the unexplained errors that wind up bricking some of these. Line-noise won't necessarily drop a PC or sound the alarm but could cause an unprotected router writing the CFE. Did you use the CFE file goggles posted or the special 3-part file from Engineer's guide? Have you noticed any difference using v1.0.2.0 or is v1.0.2.1 what you've always used? The CPU bump to 1000 MHz isn't sticking for some after reboots, have you noticed it?

The mass of posts and guides for converting has become so fragmented, that if anyone with editing skills cared to combine and expand the best of the latest work into a semi-reference-edition, with a preface, appending a common problems, a 'what-if' section and what to avoid doing, it would be a guide for the ages at this point. Most things that can go wrong are due to impatience, too much coffee or trying the same mistakes over, leading many to believe the router is bricked. Alex mentioned he's considering a rewrite, and his guide is almost there; it wouldn't take too much for someone handy with a keyboard.

We stopped into the new TM shop last week, I wanted to see if they knew the history of this device. Unfortunately the chicks inside proved as clueless as the movie by the same name. TM phone CSRs that I reached when I tried to buy mine were overseas; many claimed they didn't have permission to verify the sale, and one simply hung up. There were so many pages of complaints since 2016, that TM removed many of them, which only generated many more pages of irritated comments. One CSR claimed there were no managers to escalate my call to; that line works only if you believe CSRs never lie, there's always a manager lurking about. I finally reached an English-speaking fellow who said the website had locked up and since they were out of stock, they were suspending sales. Ran across one post still on TM, that claims they had good success with forcing the conversion only using SSH, using a couple tricks I haven't see.

If anyone sees these at too good to believe prices from Walmart vendors, WalMart help buyers who get stuck with a genuinely bricked unit, so beware. Cheers.
 
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Mrwirez, You're definitely 'meshed-out' now:) Didn't intend to run on so. I have to dictate instead of type and a post that seems to only take a minute looks like war and pizza on the page after it's pasted in. The moderator approval is becoming standard now, no doubt to the volume of DDOS and spam attacks, so it pops up often. The mods are good guys:) Am thinking about snagging another one if I can find one in the white/pink TM-box, not the 3rd party brown-box units. For that matter, the extra $25 gets you a new Asus RT-1750_B1 with no fiddling required, it's on the Mesh list, the specs/cpu is same even if the 2.4 MHz band is a wee bit slower.

I've wondered if power sags/hits while converting has caused some of the unexplained errors that wind up bricking some of these. Line-noise won't necessarily drop a PC or sound the alarm but could cause an unprotected router writing the CFE. Did you use the CFE file goggles posted or the special 3-part file from Engineer's guide? Have you noticed any difference using v1.0.2.0 or is v1.0.2.1 what you've always used? The CPU bump to 1000 MHz isn't sticking for some after reboots, have you noticed it?

The mass of posts and guides for converting has become so fragmented, that if anyone with editing skills cared to combine and expand the best of the latest work into a semi-reference-edition, with a preface, appending a common problems, a 'what-if' section and what to avoid doing, it would be a guide for the ages at this point. Most things that can go wrong are due to impatience, too much coffee or trying the same mistakes over, leading many to believe the router is bricked. Alex mentioned he's considering a rewrite, and his guide is almost there; it wouldn't take too much for someone handy with a keyboard.

We stopped into the new TM shop last week, I wanted to see if they knew the history of this device. Unfortunately the chicks inside proved as clueless as the movie by the same name. TM phone CSRs that I reached when I tried to buy mine were overseas; many claimed they didn't have permission to verify the sale, and one simply hung up. There were so many pages of complaints since 2016, that TM removed many of them, which only generated many more pages of irritated comments. One CSR claimed there were no managers to escalate my call to; that line works only if you believe CSRs never lie, there's always a manager lurking about. I finally reached an English-speaking fellow who said the website had locked up and since they were out of stock, they were suspending sales. Ran across one post still on TM, that claims they had good success with forcing the conversion only using SSH, using a couple tricks I haven't see.

If anyone sees these at too good to believe prices from Walmart vendors, WalMart help buyers who get stuck with a genuinely bricked unit, so beware. Cheers.

Yeah, sorry to any mod I questioned about the mod approval thing, I didn't realize there were still attacks ongoing.

I can't tell a difference between any of the cfe versions.

On the first TM-AC1900 I did, I was confused because I was following with 2 different guides Bay-Tech & Engineer.

What I did was I flashed the US 1.0.2.0 version, then flashed the expanding ASUS FW and overclocked. I noticed afterwards the OC wasn't sticking, so I went to the SNB CFE image page and DL'd the 1.0.2.1 version, which says "unlocked". It stuck after that, but I then updated to the AiMesh FW and I didn't re-check the clocks again. I suppose it could have defaulted back to 800/666...

At this point, I'm all "routered-out"... If it stuck or if it didn't, it's staying that way.. LOL.

Good luck on the pink router hunt.
 
Mrwirez, I'm sure the mods take it all in a day's work, and none of us can be complacent. The IoT is unfortunately contributing to the current mess, so always buy from reputable gadget companies and isolate your smart stuff.. The live maps do a good job of graphically illustrating the level/intensity of attacks, and are sobering even for those who've read about it, and had their eyes glaze over. Most is coming out of china/russia, being directed at Canada, US, SA, and the EU, with the Aussies and even poor NZ as well.

Interesting clue for v1.2.3.1, hadn't seen that one, I may get brave and try it on the next router since Engineer recommends that after 1.2.3.0, but am router-ed out me-self. Have a cold bug made me take a couple days off.
Current one I'm working on has SSL available in the TM/Asus FW v.3.0.0.4.376 3169. The url below refers to the SSL guide written by timmytamez on 12/18/16, about halfway down the page, with a second remark and photo dated 2/2/17, which shows it was expanded to 64 MB by flashing to the latest Asus firmware, without having to first flash lower version first. As this was written a year ago, it's about as current as anything except Alex's guide and If verified would be good to include in an expanded guide. ( https://support.t-mobile.com/thread/85860#470540 )

I've tried working at a mesh of the guides, no pun intended, but others could do a much better job. So many are busy with coding, projects, day jobs and families, it's good that members take time helping others.
Back to the 'pink-box' TM1900 search, Cheers.
 
Livin, wondered if you'd resolved your TM refurb/return dilemma, or if the dog absconded with it:)? It's a bummer to know TM doesn't care about it's customers, and that they want your router back only so it can be eventually re-sold some day on Ebay or Amazon;( Personally, I've seen dogs carry off objects much larger than a TM1900, and doggoned if I'd know where they wind up. Sorry, not helpful, but hope you get a replacement that works well for you. Cheers.
 
I was just asked by T-Mo to return the TM-AC1900 they 'loaned me'. I flashed Merlin on it and wondering if it is even worth it to flash it back to stock... meaning, will they know and give me grief about it?

Anyone have any idea?

So what happened... and what happens if you just say it's lost?
 
Well, to be sure, I've never heard of TMobile sending out a team to perform a repo on one of these units and given the state their site is in, unless you really need to try to contact their team (good luck), TM has biggger problems.It's unlikely anyone has been forced into a corner or had a card billed over this long-dead deal, but it would be nice to know if the truth is out there, or if anyone has a different end to the story. Cheers.
 
I've never heard of TMobile sending out a team to perform a repo on one of these units..but it would be nice to know if the truth is out there, or if anyone has a different end to the story. Cheers.

I don’t even recall what the original deal was. Are we liable for retail price?

I haven’t receive a request to return it. Did everyone else?




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Authority, most of the earlier posts cover it, and there's scads of related info on the conversion thread. TM essentially gave them to customers on long term loan for wifi calling, until it was discovered they could be hacked, er, converted into actual Asus 68s which would then accept Merlin FW. TM finally decided to recall them all, tidy them up and sell them off in batched to resellers to wash their hands of them. Since they don't really claim the units (Asus didn't want to deal with them, it's a long shot they'd go to any length to repo one. We haven't heard of any recent requests to return the TM units, but they know which are active on their system, which weren't converted. Am surprised they haven't yet pulled the plug on the service. For those that have bought the refurbed/used TM's, converted them, put them on mesh, then allowed them auto-update, and found the update assured they would no longer accept the official software, it disappointing after all that work, but that's the risk one assumes when depending an EOL product that was never really supported by TM, and Asus never wanted to support them. If there's no official support, it's difficult to see that TM still claims the routers in any way, since they don't otherwise want anything to do with them now. If yours still functions on the TM system, enjoy it while it lasts or convert it so it will run Merlin while you can. If and/or when TM pulls the plug, they could just as easily brick all that remained active, since they're long out of any warranty claim. That would be a shame and dirty trick to play on loyal customers, but that's part of their game and worse has occurred.

No one has reported receiving an invoice or demand letter for one of these, though many were returned. Given recent court cases and since no one really reads/understands those 'terms' included during the period in question, the courts have been leaning toward negating /nullifying holding customers liable. If you're losing sleep over it, you shouldn't and can consult a lawyer.. If TM suddenly became snippy, and sent demand letters or invoices out (haven't heard of such) a nice touch would be to send TM a certified letter, saying they can pickup the item in question between 8-8:05 AM on x-day. and to be sure to present company ID and a receipt when you return 'their ' property and make the exchange. Recording and streaming live to YouTube would be a rabble-rousing nice touch and something to see, if TM really wanted the routers back; IMO, it's unlikely.

If you got in on the last stages of the program when TM essentially gave 2 of them to wireless customers and sold them for $25-$50 to anyone who plunked down plastic, that likely means they're yours; unless they want to make an appointment with you to come and get them, on their dime. Use your best judgement, dollar wise, it's not worth worrying about; remember the old saying; Possession is 9/10ths of the law. TM has to want 'their' property enough to repossess it, so you're probably OK. If it were ours we'd snag another refurb for $49. on Amazon, convert it like the others and never let it update to a new official Asus FW with mesh, then and enjoy it. It still makes a fine RT68. Just musing. Cheers.
 
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This is all news to me. I got a “free” loaner -and updated mine to stock ASUS firmware long ago (using tips from here) and never had an issue... it’s on the latest firmware as of a few days ago. No issues. Do I understand correctly some people have been unable to do that?

They’ve never asked for it back. It’s not a big deal, certain not a court case, but they could easily add to the bill which would be annoying.

Are they still asking for them back? So question for those who were asked for it back... what did they say if you say it’s lost?



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Shouldn't be an issue (see above). If you're running the latest firmware with no issues, enjoy; many have reported the conversion being reverted back to TMs FW. since Asus doesn't claim these at all and won't support them on their firmwre, so that would be end of the line; if that happens to yours. YMMV, but please use your search-fu on the forum search function (and elsewhere) there's tons of other posts to provide all the enlightenment you care to plunge into. Cheers.
 
many have reported the conversion being reverted back to TMs FW.

I don’t understand how that could even happen... the device doesn’t auto-update.

I guess MAYBE if a user were to click update and not pay attention to what it wanted to update to then that could happen?




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Usually someone notices/'sees/thinks, "wowee, ,a new update, have to have the latest/greatest" so without researching the contents/side effects of the update or waiting to see what happens to others feedback, trips the trigger and wonders what happened. We wait after every update comes out. This ain't windows, where every update means another take over attempt by the powers that be,to dump more untested 'help' into the system. That said, when one doesn't read the change log and jumps hurredly/blindly into an update, especially with a router, things can go sideways very quickly. Logic suggests patience and research will save you lots of pain and loss of stability. Always read the change log when updates show up, watch and read user comments/reactions of others before deciding to update and you will thank yourself. Hope this helps. Cheers.
 
Usually someone notices/'sees/thinks, "wowee, ,a new update, have to have the latest/greatest" so without researching the contents/side effects of the update or waiting to see what happens to others feedback, trips the trigger and wonders what happened.

Well duh... if someone flashes a device with an alternate firmware then clicks stock “update” of course it would revert. Frankly surprised anyone who went through the process of flashing would be that dumb. I guess it takes all kinds.



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Yep, for all those who have come up through the ranks and years, it's sometimes difficult to comprehend how people have such blanket faith (or rather mindless lunacy) that the next stock upgrade won't bork their system. Many learn the hard way it ain't necessarily so:) Cheers.
 
Yep, for all those who have come up through the ranks and years, it's sometimes difficult to comprehend how people have such blanket faith (or rather mindless lunacy) that the next stock upgrade won't bork their system. Many learn the hard way it ain't necessarily so:) Cheers.

No, that’s not what I am saying.

It’s perfectly reasonable to have faith in a mainstream stock firmware. Not so much on a modded device.

If I understand what you’ve said correctly, as long as one downloads the stock RT-AC68 firmware from ASUS (or Merlin) we should be fine.



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