Thinking about going back to DDWRT but QoS problems.

[hyelton]

Thinking about going back to using DDWRT, first things first wireless is not important and will probably be disabled.

I already own a WNDR3800 and a DIR-825 both have the same CPU. Which would be the best to use performance wise or neither?

My reason for ditching ddwrt last year was I never got QoS properly working. And still can't with some small testing last night.

My issue is upload. Without QoS when maxing my 2mbps(current) upload speed pings will shoot up to 1000ms from a normal 10ms. So I use QoS.

Here's the issue, I can start an upload and or download at the same time maxing both out except uploaded limited a little and everything works great, but then all the sudden it's like I turned QoS off and pings shoot up until I cancel the upload.

Any ideas? This has happened for years across many different routers running ddwrt.

I also have a similar issue with pfsesne, IPFire, and other stock router firmwares. Heck I have a TP-Link C3150 sitting in the box (which it had ddwrt support)

I did find one router that works perfectly QoS wise and it's my Edgerouter X. But I'm not a fan of the GUI and having to use a external computer to monitor the BW usage etc and it has to be manually rebooted about every month. But QoS works flawlessly!


Any idea why I can never get QoS working on ddwrt?

And would either of the DIR-825 or WNDR3800 be able to handle 100/10 fine? On average about 20 or devices are connected at all times.

I have a Cable connection.

Currently 24/2. Awaiting tomorrow to see if I can be a beta tester for 100/10. My cable co just upgraded my CMTS last night for my area.


Thanks! It's driving me crazy [emoji23]

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[avtella]

I haven't had much success with DD-WRT's QoS either. Bufferbloat was worse (C-F Grades) than stock with Qualcomm Streamboost (B-C Grades) enabled at least on my R7800. You could try hnyman's LEDE builds for the WNDR3800. SQM (Piece of Cake option) on LEDE is pretty good, bufferbloat wise I get an A/A+ with it on my 37/1.8 VDSL 2 connection, a bit better than FQ-Codel in my usage testing. If you dont like SQM you can install the standard QoS packages too. Even your D-Link is supported by LEDE. I also have around ~20 devices on my network, like you. As for proper bandwidth monitoring you could install YAmon, Bandwidthd or vnstats.

hnyman's WNDR3800 LEDE Builds:
https://forum.lede-project.org/t/build-for-wndr3700v1-v2-wndr3800/64

Go for the the 17.01 builds rather than the bleeding edge master builds, for stability.

 

[Basu]

Thinking about going back to using DDWRT, first things first wireless is not important and will probably be disabled.

I already own a WNDR3800 and a DIR-825 both have the same CPU. Which would be the best to use performance wise or neither?

My reason for ditching ddwrt last year was I never got QoS properly working. And still can't with some small testing last night.

My issue is upload. Without QoS when maxing my 2mbps(current) upload speed pings will shoot up to 1000ms from a normal 10ms. So I use QoS.

Here's the issue, I can start an upload and or download at the same time maxing both out except uploaded limited a little and everything works great, but then all the sudden it's like I turned QoS off and pings shoot up until I cancel the upload.

Any ideas? This has happened for years across many different routers running ddwrt.

I also have a similar issue with pfsesne, IPFire, and other stock router firmwares. Heck I have a TP-Link C3150 sitting in the box (which it had ddwrt support)

I did find one router that works perfectly QoS wise and it's my Edgerouter X. But I'm not a fan of the GUI and having to use a external computer to monitor the BW usage etc and it has to be manually rebooted about every month. But QoS works flawlessly!


Any idea why I can never get QoS working on ddwrt?

And would either of the DIR-825 or WNDR3800 be able to handle 100/10 fine? On average about 20 or devices are connected at all times.

I have a Cable connection.

Currently 24/2. Awaiting tomorrow to see if I can be a beta tester for 100/10. My cable co just upgraded my CMTS last night for my area.


Thanks! It's driving me crazy [emoji23]

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I know that this is a very late reply, but I just came across your post now. I can help if you post your QoS settings page screenshot. QoS does work alright with DD-wrt, else it won't have been there in the router settings. Anyway, if you're reading this, please share your QoS settings page. I'll be happy to help.

 

[hyelton]

I know that this is a very late reply, but I just came across your post now. I can help if you post your QoS settings page screenshot. QoS does work alright with DD-wrt, else it won't have been there in the router settings. Anyway, if you're reading this, please share your QoS settings page. I'll be happy to help.

Long gone by now [emoji23].

I no longer need QoS due to provider finally upgrading my area so I have 100/10 now and saturating the upload no longer kills the connection


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[Basu]

Long gone by now [emoji23].

I no longer need QoS due to provider finally upgrading my area so I have 100/10 now and saturating the upload no longer kills the connection


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Well, that's good to know. However, I would still recommend QoS for an almost perfect home network, where despite 100% usage from X user, there is still room for Y user. That's a bit of oversimplification, but yeah. It's your call to make. In case you need any help, just ring me up here.

 

[hyelton]

Well, that's good to know. However, I would still recommend QoS for an almost perfect home network, where despite 100% usage from X user, there is still room for Y user. That's a bit of oversimplification, but yeah. It's your call to make. In case you need any help, just ring me up here.

Thanks! Yeah been using merlin firmware for the past year. It’s been a long time since I’ve kept the same router for over a year.

Yeah only issue with QoS I would only need it for the download, but in the late evening it wouldn’t matter anyway due to congestion and I’d have to keep changing it. During the day I can get 105-110mbps. At night it’s half sometimes lower but what makes it worse is the ping during those times while downloading.


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[Basu]

Thanks! Yeah been using merlin firmware for the past year. It’s been a long time since I’ve kept the same router for over a year.

Yeah only issue with QoS I would only need it for the download, but in the late evening it wouldn’t matter anyway due to congestion and I’d have to keep changing it. During the day I can get 105-110mbps. At night it’s half sometimes lower but what makes it worse is the ping during those times while downloading.


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That's exactly what I am talking about - the frustration. I'll say QoS really helps here. At least it helped me out.
Just had a few questions :
"I’d have to keep changing it' - Is it the router that you change ?
"due to congestion" - Is it from your ISP or is it just your home ?

 

[hyelton]

That's exactly what I am talking about - the frustration. I'll say QoS really helps here. At least it helped me out.
Just had a few questions :
"I’d have to keep changing it' - Is it the router that you change ?
"due to congestion" - Is it from your ISP or is it just your home ?

1. Yeah but I don’t even mess with it anymore I just keep it off as it pegs the cpu on the AC66u-b1

2. ISP congestion. Too much to even explain that one [emoji38] overcrowded node cable system with only 8 downstreams and 2 upstreams. If your into CATV tech our docsis channels are in the FM band on top of that.


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[Basu]

1. Yeah but I don’t even mess with it anymore I just keep it off as it pegs the cpu on the AC66u-b1

2. ISP congestion. Too much to even explain that one [emoji38] overcrowded node cable system with only 8 downstreams and 2 upstreams. If your into CATV tech our docsis channels are in the FM band on top of that.


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I think setting fixed speeds per connected device will be the best option. It's the easiest one to setup, and works wonders. This is because setting QoS service-wise is a bit difficult to handle, due to the wide range of ports, and some of them are constantly changing based on the service being used.