Ax57 qos

[Stormeagle]

I have a 500/20 connection and when enabling qos and setting the upload and download bandwidths my speeds get cut to 300 or so via wired. Same on WiFi.

Wondering if there’s some setting or if it’s just the nature of the beast. Speed test within router is 590

Stock latest firmware.

 

[L&LD]

Yes, QoS disables the hardware acceleration of NAT. Expected results.

 

[Stormeagle]

So which says router doesn’t disable it with qos on?

 

[L&LD]

Business/Enterprise grade equipment.

 

[Stormeagle]

Business/Enterprise grade equipment.

Got examples of these?

 

[L&LD]

No, I don't run that type of hardware.

Look at Cisco, Aruba, etc.

 

[Stormeagle]

No, I don't run that type of hardware.

Look at Cisco, Aruba, etc.

So none of the ASUS stuff can do qos and hardware acceleration?

 

[Tech9]

So none of the ASUS stuff can do qos and hardware acceleration?

This RT-AX57 router in particular is one of the cheapest possible AX-class routers and according to listed specifications it doesn't have Adaptive QoS.

RT-AX57 - Tech Specs｜WiFi Routers｜ASUS Canada

AX3000 Dual Band WiFi 6 (802.11ax) Router supporting MU-MIMO and OFDMA technology, with AiProtection Classic network security powered by Trend Microâ¢

www.asus.com

You need RT-AX3000 or better:

RT-AX3000 - Tech Specs｜WiFi Routers｜ASUS Canada

Detailed specification of RT-AX3000 Tech Specsï¼Network Standard :IEEE 802.11a|IEEE 802.11b|IEEE 802.11g|WiFi 4 (802.11n)|WiFi 5 (802.11ac)|WiFi 6 (802.11ax)|IPv4|IPv6ãNetwork Standard :IEEE 802.11a|IEEE 802.11b|IEEE 802.11g|WiFi 4 (802.11n)|WiFi 5 (802.11ac)|WiFi 6 (802.11ax)|IPv4|IPv6ãNetwork...

www.asus.com

Adaptive QoS keeps level of hardware NAT acceleration enabled and can do higher than CPU limit speeds. You perhaps don't need QoS on 500/20 ISP.

 

[Stormeagle]

This RT-AX57 router in particular is one of the cheapest possible AX-class routers and according to listed specifications it doesn't have Adaptive QoS.

RT-AX57 - Tech Specs｜WiFi Routers｜ASUS Canada

AX3000 Dual Band WiFi 6 (802.11ax) Router supporting MU-MIMO and OFDMA technology, with AiProtection Classic network security powered by Trend Microâ¢

www.asus.com

You need RT-AX3000 or better:

RT-AX3000 - Tech Specs｜WiFi Routers｜ASUS Canada

Detailed specification of RT-AX3000 Tech Specsï¼Network Standard :IEEE 802.11a|IEEE 802.11b|IEEE 802.11g|WiFi 4 (802.11n)|WiFi 5 (802.11ac)|WiFi 6 (802.11ax)|IPv4|IPv6ãNetwork Standard :IEEE 802.11a|IEEE 802.11b|IEEE 802.11g|WiFi 4 (802.11n)|WiFi 5 (802.11ac)|WiFi 6 (802.11ax)|IPv4|IPv6ãNetwork...

www.asus.com

Adaptive QoS keeps level of hardware NAT acceleration enabled and can do higher than CPU limit speeds. You perhaps don't need QoS on 500/20 ISP.

I have no problem returning and getting another one.

But yes I do. Lots of devices vying for precious upload.

 

[Tech9]

I have no problem returning and getting another one.

Then do it because this entry-level router doesn't have what you are looking for.

In budget segment RT-AX3000 is perhaps the minimum. In higher end models RT-AX86U Pro is the starting point.

 

[L&LD]

So none of the ASUS stuff can do qos and hardware acceleration?

None.

 

[Stormeagle]

This RT-AX57 router in particular is one of the cheapest possible AX-class routers and according to listed specifications it doesn't have Adaptive QoS.

RT-AX57 - Tech Specs｜WiFi Routers｜ASUS Canada

AX3000 Dual Band WiFi 6 (802.11ax) Router supporting MU-MIMO and OFDMA technology, with AiProtection Classic network security powered by Trend Microâ¢

www.asus.com

You need RT-AX3000 or better:

RT-AX3000 - Tech Specs｜WiFi Routers｜ASUS Canada

Detailed specification of RT-AX3000 Tech Specsï¼Network Standard :IEEE 802.11a|IEEE 802.11b|IEEE 802.11g|WiFi 4 (802.11n)|WiFi 5 (802.11ac)|WiFi 6 (802.11ax)|IPv4|IPv6ãNetwork Standard :IEEE 802.11a|IEEE 802.11b|IEEE 802.11g|WiFi 4 (802.11n)|WiFi 5 (802.11ac)|WiFi 6 (802.11ax)|IPv4|IPv6ãNetwork...

www.asus.com

Adaptive QoS keeps level of hardware NAT acceleration enabled and can do higher than CPU limit speeds. You perhaps don't need QoS on 500/20 ISP.

So that link is a ax58u?

 

[Tech9]

So that link is a ax58u?

Yes, RT-AX58U and RT-AX3000 are the same router with different marketing. The current version is V2, it has the same CPU and radios as RT-AX57, but 2x RAM (256MB vs 512MB) and apparently has Adaptive QoS and AiProtection with more features. It can do 500Mbps with Adaptive QoS, but keep in mind it may not be exactly the solution to your problem. Adaptive QoS often has traffic classification issues and this is the reason why custom scripts like FlexQoS exist.

RT-AX3000 has Asuswrt-Merlin support via GNUton fork here:

Release 3004.388.6_2-gnuton1 · gnuton/asuswrt-merlin.ng

GNUton's Asus Merlin changelog Date: April 04, 2024 Release: 3004.388.6_2-gnuton1 ADDED: Support for TUF-AX3000 V2 ADDED: Support for RT-AX58U V2 Known Major issues: XT8 cannot detect mesh nodes...

github.com

If you want to test FlexQoS enhancements (of Adaptive QoS) you need this firmware.

FlexQoS - FlexQoS 1.3.2 - Flexible QoS Enhancement Script for Adaptive QoS

FlexQoS Version 1.3.2 - Released 16-Sep-2022 This is just a minor release with an iptables optimization. Nothing exciting or outwardly visible has changed. CHANGED: Split iptables rules into separate upload and download chains to avoid unnecessary rule traversal CHANGED: Tweaked 'debug'...

www.snbforums.com

FlexQoS is available in AMTM, included in Asuswrt-Merlin firmware.

amtm - the Asuswrt-Merlin Terminal Menu - Diversion

diversion.ch

 

[Tech9]

If you get an RT-AX86U Pro - it can do true SQM like CakeQoS at about 400Mbps WAN-LAN speeds.

It also needs Asuswrt-Merlin firmware for this, CakeQoS is included in QoS options. The firmware files for it are here:

Asuswrt-Merlin - Browse /RT-AX86U_PRO/Release at SourceForge.net

Alternative firmware for Asus wireless routers

sourceforge.net

This is the better router model choice, but more expensive. It can do Gigabit with Adaptive QoS, also available option.