Asus AX88U on sale

[Grisu]

I would then just need a USB to SATA adaptor or preferable enclosure I prefer to not have the drive sitting out in the open.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KYF1LLI/?tag=snbforums-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N626TH2/?tag=snbforums-20
I know there are much cheaper ones but it feels funny to me to have it easily changeable.

 

[Makaveli]

was it just me, or did anyone else cringe at this?

I didn't cringe at that at all.

$200 is not alot of money to spend on a router.

 

[RMerlin]

I didn't cringe at that at all.

$200 is not alot of money to spend on a router.

Everyone has different priorities. For some people, if you have a family of four, your car needs repairs, you have a mortgage to pay, and your Internet needs are just to be able to access Facebook, then it makes no sense to spend 200$ on the router - it might in fact be difficult to justify that expense in your budget.

 

[heysoundude]

I didn't cringe at that at all.

$200 is not alot of money to spend on a router.

Agreed; that’s not what I cringed at. “Get a better job” was what triggered me.


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[Makaveli]

Everyone has different priorities. For some people, if you have a family of four, your car needs repairs, you have a mortgage to pay, and your Internet needs are just to be able to access Facebook, then it makes no sense to spend 200$ on the router - it might in fact be difficult to justify that expense in your budget.

This is correct and i'm not trying to assume what people can or cannot afford. Everyone's budget will be different my statement is based on my own budget.

Agreed; that’s not what I cringed at. “Get a better job” was what triggered me.


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lol ahhh ya kind of a personal jab but whatever.

 

[Jack Yaz]

Agreed; that’s not what I cringed at. “Get a better job” was what triggered me.


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Almost as bad as "just stop being poor"

 

[heysoundude]

lol ahhh ya kind of a personal jab but whatever.

I’d be offended if it was directed at me.
And laughing it off with a whatever...how’d you feel if I told you to pull up your pants, yo?



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[Val D.]

I’d be offended if it was directed at me.

This was a reaction to the indirect insult to OP how he wasted $400 on a new ASUS router from a person who has a $400 Asus router in his signature. It’s like “don’t buy new iPhones, not worth it”, posted from my iPhone XS.

 

[Makaveli]

I’d be offended if it was directed at me.
And laughing it off with a whatever...how’d you feel if I told you to pull up your pants, yo?



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I'm an adult i've learned not to take things on the internet seriously. You could call me every nasty name in the book and I'm going to continue to operate.

Sticks and stones my friend, if I were to take every insult I got on the internet seriously I would be in a mental home by now.

Now lets get back on topic folks.

 

[miroco]

Personally I think that WiFi is gone in less than 5 years in the urban areas. All your devices, IoT, smartphones will be connected by mobile 5G that you will manage by a console or virtual router in the cloud. Don't overspend on WiFi tech

 

[Makaveli]

If carriers start to make wireless data affordable maybe I don't see that happening. I actually see the opposite once they see everyone devices will need 5G I expect them to raise the rates.

And if it were to happen I will still be running my stuff local, there is no way in hell i'm going to trust a cloud provider with all my internal Lan traffic.

 

[Val D.]

will be connected by mobile 5G

This is what we used to hear when 4G arrived. No more need of cables... everything goes wireless... everywhere. I don’t see how 5G will compete with fibre optic lines. May have to wait for Trump’s 6G technology.

 

[miroco]

If not warp speed, 5G will be a huge leap forward.

What is the difference between 4G and 5G?
https://www.justaskgemalto.com/en/difference-4g-5g/

5G vs 4G vs 3G: Comparing Generations of Mobile Network Technology
https://www.whistleout.com/CellPhones/Guides/5g-vs-4g-vs-3g

I wouldn't put much faith in the modern incarnation of Baron von Münchhausen

 

[Makaveli]

If not warp speed, 5G will be a huge leap forward.

What is the difference between 4G and 5G?
https://www.justaskgemalto.com/en/difference-4g-5g/

5G vs 4G vs 3G: Comparing Generations of Mobile Network Technology
https://www.whistleout.com/CellPhones/Guides/5g-vs-4g-vs-3g

I wouldn't put much faith in the modern incarnation of Baron von Münchhausen

I don't think anyone is debating the speed increase.

However you have a lot of people believing (due to marketing) 5G is some how going to replaced wired connections which it will not.

 

[Val D.]

If not warp speed, 5G will be a huge leap forward.

Good, lets see what 5G has to offer in real life first.
Note 4G LTE -> Top Speed 1Gbps; Average Speed 0.05Gbps...

Sounds to me like 3x3 NitroQAM 750Mbps on 2.4GHz, as some WiFi router manufacturers advertise.

 

[miroco]

First of all, I'm confident that people can make up their own opinions, me included.

Secondly, seen the evolutionary process of technology, I'm confident that this is the next logical step.

Wired on the other hand, will still play a significant role. If nothing else, provide the backbone of the internet. Which it already does and will for a foreseeable future. A Kardashev type one civilization is probably all wireless.

 

[Val D.]

A Kardashev type one civilization is probably all wireless.

Listen, here in Canada we live in Rogers type of civilization.
It is based on the following simple principles, wired or wireless:

- new customers -> lower the price, promise everything, make them sign and hit them hard in 6-12 months
- existing customers -> constantly increase the price, make them wait 2h on the phone, say can't do any better

Kardashev scale is based on energy utilization. Rogers scale is based on greed utilization.

 

[consorts]

just to put my cost considerations in further perspective. i enjoy being frugal not because $200 will break me, but because i enjoy spending that $200 more when i know i'm getting better value for my money in ways that i need, and i simply don't need any of the better or faster abilities of a more expensive router. here in NYC many ISP's give you a perfectly good gig ac1900-ac2600 router for free - as long as you don't mind them managing it. i got my old ac3100 used off CL for $50, added a $5 fan to it, and now have the perfect fit for all my family of five's 2,000sqft ranch house needs. with that $100 i saved i bought a HDHR tuner so i could LAN my roof antenna to share OTA with everyone via app, so it's not like i didn't spend the money, i simply did it on other home network things and don't feel i'm missing out on not having a AC86U which would have been my first choice as new router for our needs had i not had so many other ideas on how to best spend that $150 think of it another way... in a few years when ax/wifi6 matures into something useful and affordable, i'll be a lot less reluctant to upgrade after spending only $50 than had i already spent $150. something else i noticed which further illustrates this issue... you know what router is being sold as used right now the most on ebay/cl - that big spider looking ac5300 monster, why? because i'll bet a lot of "money is no object" people bought that mess, only to discover what most here already know... it does not offer better performance in most residential installs, particularly if you thought all those extra sticks would help you to defeat urban wifi congestion, or over come a wall full of metal plumbing risers between your router and your wall mounted wifi tv, so those original owners found out the hard way that spending more may not give you what you were looking for.

 

[Val D.]

those original owners found out the hard way that spending more may not give you what you were looking for

This is why we have SNB forums. Members here found the router models we discuss have good price/performance ratio. They are relatively new products, so chances to find something used cheap are slim. @Makaveli spent $370 CAD on a new router because it is one of the recommended models, he wants it and he can afford it. Nothing wrong with that.

You have to buy what you want from time to time, not only what you need. A new car, television, computer, phone, tablet, tools, sunglasses... even though the old ones still work okay. Just like that, as a gift to yourself. Think about that. In a number of years we are all going to the same place. Not sure the currency we save will be accepted there.

 

[miroco]

Wi-Fi turned 20 this year!

How a 1998 meeting with Steve Jobs gave birth to Wi-Fi
https://wifinowevents.com/news-and-blog/how-a-meeting-with-steve-jobs-in-1998-gave-birth-to-wi-fi/

Bootleg footage of Steve Jobs introducing the world to Wi-Fi at MacWorld in New York City in July, 1999.