Asus AX88U on sale

[miroco]

First time i'm seeing this icon.
This is one wired device my desktop to the router.
What is the 2nd client?

If you have a dual boot environment you can get this "2 clients" flag. Two different operating systems on the same MAC address (presumably also the same IP).

 

[Val D.]

With Standing units you have to get creative with zip ties to mount fans on the back of the unit.

Double sided mounting tape, four small pieces on corners of each fan. Spongy type tape serves as noise and vibration damper as well. No zip ties needed.

 

[CaptainSTX]

If you have a dual boot environment you can get this "2 clients" flag. Two different operating systems on the same MAC address (presumably also the same IP).

Are you using static IPs assigned by the router? If so it is possible that the DHCP server assigned the device an IP from the pool before the static IP was assigned. Once the DHCP from the pool expires the device will only have a single IP associated with the MAC address.

 

[Makaveli]

Are you using static IPs assigned by the router? If so it is possible that the DHCP server assigned the device an IP from the pool before the static IP was assigned. Once the DHCP from the pool expires the device will only have a single IP associated with the MAC address.

This issue has resolved itself it looks to be some kinda lease issue and once that expired the 2 is gone and back to single.

To view power options:

 pwr help

To lower CPU temp:

 pwr config --cpuwait on

To go back to same CPU temp:

 pwr config --cpuwait off

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Thanks for this Marin

So here are my default temps



And with cpuwait on about a 8c drops in temps



Is there a performance difference with this on vs off?

And now to drop it on a laptop cooling pad to see how much further I can get that to drop.



Love these flat routers just for this reason with the ventilation at the bottom of the router and the cooling pad blowing air right up into the router that is a nice drop in temps.

 

[Val D.]

Love these flat routers just for this reason with the ventilation at the bottom of the router and the cooling pad blowing air right up into the router that is an nice drop in temps

I did some experiments with RT-AC86U cooling and the best results are with push-pull fans, as expected. One is blowing inside the router, the other is sucking the air out. With 12V 70mm fans running on 5V I managed to drop the temperature down to 46C. Didn't like how the fans look when differently oriented though, so now I have both blowing inside and the air escapes from the top near antennae connectors. CPU temp reaches 54C under load with 26C room temperature. Fans from Amazon for about $12 CAD, a piece of an old USB cable, some shrink tubes, double sided spongy tape, 15min setup process.

 

[m4rk0]

Before adding an AC86 to the mix check the year that it was manufactured. The 2019 model year may have solved the issues some people have with the 2018 model year.

Which kind of issues?

 

[Natey2]

FWIW, Asus Store selling the RT-AX88U $299.99, free shipping in the US. 9/9/19

https://store.asus.com/us/search?q=rt ax88&s_c=1

I suspect Amazon may lower it to $279.00 or so as Black Friday/November sales approach, as I think it sold at that price briefly at the end of July 2019

I'm getting myself an AX88U for Black Friday to replace my perfectly functional AC88U.
Router is something you don't want to cut corners or skimp on. For me, price difference between a $100 router and $300 router is not a big deal.

And I gotta have 8 LAN ports I tell ya.
It's like once you drive a V8 there's no going back to 4-cylinder engines. [emoji16]

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[Natey2]

In recent years ASUS went overboard with those "gamer" oriented products with alien creature look.

I think they call it ROG: Republic Of Gamers. They take things quite seriously. It's not just a game to them. [emoji23]
I just want a good router and the gaming routers are pretty good.
Gaming computer hardware is pretty impressive too, even for non-gaming use.
Gotta hand it to those gamers, I tell ya.

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[miroco]

It's like once you drive a V8 there's no going back to 4-cylinder engines.

The problem is the 4 cyl. carburetor fitted on that v8.

"It's important to note though, that while the Gigabit network ports are enough for the RT-AC88U, they are not for the RT-AX88U. That's because since the latter is a Wi-FI 6 router, of which the Wi-FI speed can easily surpass 1 Gps. Consequently, in a wired-to-wireless connection, the router's LAN ports are the bottlenecks."

https://dongknows.com/asus-rt-ax88u-review/

 

[CaptainSTX]

Which kind of issues?

Search this forum and also read the numerous unfavorable reviews on Amazon. Reviewers gave this router a much higher percentage unfavorable ratings than to other router models.

 

[elorimer]

Consequently, in a wired-to-wireless connection, the router's LAN ports are the bottlenecks."

This seems to me to be superficial. My 87U feeds three backbones to three 8 port 1G switches, and moving to 10G would be a huge effort and expense, particularly since none of my end points are at 10G. Of more interest to me would be that the 86U, ac88 and ax88 all have different ethernet and switch chips (the ac88 using a realtek), and how they handle feeding traffic from different end points to other end points could be a bottleneck, if we are at the point where bottlenecks exist. That might help me decide which is the better upgrade.

 

[Makaveli]

This seems to me to be superficial. My 87U feeds three backbones to three 8 port 1G switches, and moving to 10G would be a huge effort and expense, particularly since none of my end points are at 10G. Of more interest to me would be that the 86U, ac88 and ax88 all have different ethernet and switch chips (the ac88 using a realtek), and how they handle feeding traffic from different end points to other end points could be a bottleneck, if we are at the point where bottlenecks exist. That might help me decide which is the better upgrade.

This!!

Until my WAN connection is > 1Gbps and I have devices in my internal lan that need faster access than that its not an issue for me.

If I was building my network for 10 Gbps performance I wouldn't be using an asus router I would have gone with Ubiquity or Mirkotek gear etc.

And budget would have went from a couple hundred into thousands.

 

[Mutzli]

Search this forum and also read the numerous unfavorable reviews on Amazon. Reviewers gave this router a much higher percentage unfavorable ratings than to other router models.

Because people don't know what they are doing. I bough two open box AX88U routers on Amazon at highly reduced prices and both work perfectly fine. Not a single problem in my environment and I have many scripts running plus OpenVPN. Understand what every function does and what all the settings are for and you'll be fine.

 

[Natey2]

I bough two open box AX88U routers on Amazon at highly reduced prices and both work perfectly fine.

Aren't you concerned somebody (original purchaser) may have the MAC address and serial number of your routers?

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[Mutzli]

Aren't you concerned somebody (original purchaser) may have the MAC address and serial number of your routers?

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No, I use the MAC address clone with the same MAC address for years to connect to my ISP's modem.

 

[RMerlin]

Aren't you concerned somebody (original purchaser) may have the MAC address and serial number of your routers?

Contrary to popular belief, there's nothing one can do by knowing a device's MAC address if they are not already on your network. A MAC is only visible within a network segment, i.e. it travels over switches, but not over routers. It's basically the addressing scheme used by Ethernet.

Case in point, you can go to any store, and see most networking devices' MAC printed on the box's label for anyone to see. So anyone could go to the local Best Buy, note down the MAC addresses printed on boxes... and not be able to do anything with that information.

 

[CaptainSTX]

Because people don't know what they are doing. I bough two open box AX88U routers on Amazon at highly reduced prices and both work perfectly fine. Not a single problem in my environment and I have many scripts running plus OpenVPN. Understand what every function does and what all the settings are for and you'll be fine.

That may be the case with a portion of the reviews for any router but the AC86 is a "special" case. One of the most common issues noted is that the 2.4 Ghz radio stops working or is stuck on channel 0. Even the greenest NOOB can figure that out. Also many of the reviews for the AC86 were submitted by what could be considered ASUS fanboys.

I had to purchase a refurbished AC1900P from Amazon to use while my AC86 has been in RMA and it has worked fine but I strongly recommend that nobody purchase a refurbished AC86 as whomever refurbishes them has no way or doesn't thoroughly test them so defective routers are shipped to customers. I have received four routers as RMA units and none of them were stable for more than a couple of days if they even worked out of the box. My experience isn't unique, just read some of the hundreds of unfavorable reviews on Amazon or search this forum for AC86 owners who have issues.

 

[Mutzli]

That may be the case with a portion of the reviews for any router but the AC86 is a "special" case. One of the most common issues noted is that the 2.4 Ghz radio stops working or is stuck on channel 0. Even the greenest NOOB can figure that out. Also many of the reviews for the AC86 were submitted by what could be considered ASUS fanboys.

I had to purchase a refurbished AC1900P from Amazon to use while my AC86 has been in RMA and it has worked fine but I strongly recommend that nobody purchase a refurbished AC86 as whomever refurbishes them has no way or doesn't thoroughly test them so defective routers are shipped to customers. I have received four routers as RMA units and none of them were stable for more than a couple of days if they even worked out of the box. My experience isn't unique, just read some of the hundreds of unfavorable reviews on Amazon or search this forum for AC86 owners who have issues.

That's certainly true for the AC86U. I had one before the AX88U and I had several issues with that router as well and it was new and not an open box sale. FYI open box products are not the same as refurbished devices.

 

[Val D.]

Understand what every function does and what all the settings are for and you'll be fine.

I have a long list of things RT-AC86U doesn't do properly. Two years after the router release ASUS is still trying to fix the firmware. Good we have @RMerlin around to make something more usable out of it. Otherwise this router would be long gone from my list of WiFi devices. It already boot looped once for no reason and on the next catastrophic fail is definitely flying out of the window. I may also join RT-AX88U community soon or may go back to proven RT-AC1900P until some better solution comes up.

 

[miroco]

It could be the RT-AX92U.

In some markets it's only sold as an AiMesh 2 pack kit. In others you can also buy it separately as we are used to.

Hardware wise; RT-AX92U share the CPU with the RT-AC86U.

Looking back as far as the RT-N66U, it's got a dramatically different form factor. Pragmatism might have dictated the change, depending on the new Wi-Fi standard.

The price seem to target the same consumer group.

The question is if Merlin will support this newcomer?

https://wikidevi.com/wiki/ASUS_RT-AX92U
https://wikidevi.com/wiki/ASUS_RT-AC86U