Love the Netgear R8000 but one big issue for me....

[Jettubby]

I cannot believe that you cannot restrict access for one device on your network based on a schedule? For example you can't limit your kid's tablet to not have internet access based on a schedule. You can only block it completely or allow a device.

Also you cannot turn the guest network on and off via a schedule. You have to log into the router and turn it off and on manually.

For $300+ router lacking these features is ridiculous. I can keep it and big time "hope" they add this feature in a firmware or wait for a third party. Or ditch it? Really like the range and connectivity though.

 

[KGB7]

I've said it before and I'll say again. Don't let a piece of hardware do your job as a parent. Because kids will find away to bypass what ever hardware you have paid for. But they won't go against firm laid out rules that you have put in place as a parent.

Just remember that you and I were kids some years ago as well.

 

[stevech]

Amen.
I second that.

But when rules are broken there must be bad consequences. 100% of the time.

 

[KGB7]

Amen.
I second that.

But when rules are broken there must be bad consequences. 100% of the time.

Consequence go hand in hand with good parenting.


Watch Russell Peters video; Beating Your Kids.. Its hilarious!

 

[microchip]

I cannot believe that you cannot restrict access for one device on your network based on a schedule? For example you can't limit your kid's tablet to not have internet access based on a schedule. You can only block it completely or allow a device.

Also you cannot turn the guest network on and off via a schedule. You have to log into the router and turn it off and on manually.

For $300+ router lacking these features is ridiculous. I can keep it and big time "hope" they add this feature in a firmware or wait for a third party. Or ditch it? Really like the range and connectivity though.

Well, like the other posters mentioned, I agree with them. However in case you want the router to do it all for you, I suggest returning it and getting one that has such support, like the ASUS and some of the TP-Link ones. The ASUS routers have very good range too, which is also what you're looking for

 

[htismaqe]

I absolutely agree with stevech and KGB. I have two pre-teens and they know what's right and wrong when it comes to internet usage.

That being said, I can't believe Netgear wouldn't include this since it has been a feature in firmware for previous generations of routers.

 

[AdvHomeServer]

I cannot believe that you cannot restrict access for one device on your network based on a schedule? For example you can't limit your kid's tablet to not have internet access based on a schedule. You can only block it completely or allow a device.

Also you cannot turn the guest network on and off via a schedule. You have to log into the router and turn it off and on manually.

For $300+ router lacking these features is ridiculous. I can keep it and big time "hope" they add this feature in a firmware or wait for a third party. Or ditch it? Really like the range and connectivity though.

With respect to all router manufacturers ... if they give you everything in one unit then there's less need to buy additional components or get you to replace the one you just bought with the newest thing. From my unscientific reviews, it appears that all manufacturers leave out one or two important features that make you scratch your head as to why. This is applied marketing. It keeps people coming back for more.

In that regard, I suspect a lot of buggy routers are really great routers with buggy firmware, but that opinion is off topic.

Just for grins, why not consider buying a real cheapo refurb or used router for the purpose of loading some alternate firmware. Think of it as a hobby endeavor or a little experiment. Then poke around with the supported features. It might give you all you need. If so, then look for a good router that supports the alternate firmware and apply what you learned. If not, then you only wasted $10 -$25 bucks and had a good time along the way.

BTW, I just looked at some DD-WRT admin screens on my rock solid refurbished Netgear R6300 V1. DD-WRT appears to support extremely flexible access restrictions. That might be what you need.

 

[azazel1024]

I've said it before and I'll say again. Don't let a piece of hardware do your job as a parent. Because kids will find away to bypass what ever hardware you have paid for. But they won't go against firm laid out rules that you have put in place as a parent.

Just remember that you and I were kids some years ago as well.

You must not remember being a kid. I went against firm laid out rules plenty of times. Its belt and suspenders. You have the rules, you make sure your kids understand them and then you put things in place to help ensure that they follow the rules.

There of course a large element of trust...but they are also just kids. Absolute trust (unless you expect them to break it, which isn't really trust) really just isn't possible with kids. If you think it is, you either have the 1 in 100,000 child, or else are very naive.

Doesn't mean they'll break every rule, but as part of growing in to an adult they test boundries.

Anyway, my kids aren't nearly old enough to worry about this too much (Though my 6 year old when he first got a tablet stole it a few times and found him at 11pm watching netflix or playing minecraft in bed instead of sleeping. Hasn't happened in 6+ months because of consequences).

My friend who has a couple of teen/pre-teen daughters has a policy that every night the iPod/iPhone gets turned in and sits on his dresser every night. Zero exceptions. So short of sneaking in to their room in the middle of the night, or sneaking downstairs to get on a desktop/laptop, there isn't really a way to mess around on the internet/social media when they should be sleeping.

 

[htismaqe]

My friend who has a couple of teen/pre-teen daughters has a policy that every night the iPod/iPhone gets turned in and sits on his dresser every night. Zero exceptions. So short of sneaking in to their room in the middle of the night, or sneaking downstairs to get on a desktop/laptop, there isn't really a way to mess around on the internet/social media when they should be sleeping.

This is a solid example of using PARENTING instead of technology to solve a problem. Kudos to your friend.

 

[Jettubby]

Don't school me as a parent! This is not what this forum is for. I simply wanted to restrict access on a schedule. You don't know my situation and it's not for kids. If you bothered to read my post "FOR EXAMPLE...." just used that as an example of what I want to be able to do. Very disappointed at the attacks when all I was looking for was a technical answer.

 

[htismaqe]

Nobody is attacking you. It's a general side conversation, which happens from time to time on a discussion forum.

Don't take it personally.

ON TOPIC: The R8000 really doesn't have the scheduler you need? Pretty much every Netgear router I've used in the last 5 years had it. I'm kind of shocked it isn't there.

 

[azazel1024]

Don't school me as a parent! This is not what this forum is for. I simply wanted to restrict access on a schedule. You don't know my situation and it's not for kids. If you bothered to read my post "FOR EXAMPLE...." just used that as an example of what I want to be able to do. Very disappointed at the attacks when all I was looking for was a technical answer.

I want scheduling as well on my stuff.

I plan on collecting portable devices AND only connecting my kids to the guest SSID AND shutting it down from some vaguely resonable hour until connecting it at another resonable hour.

And I'll double check, but I think my switch also has ACL scheduling too...so shut down wireline ports to any desktops the kids might have accounts on.

I trust my kids a resonable amount. No further than I'd trust me if I was raising me knowning myself as kid.

Doesn't help that my 2 1/2yr old just threw a wooden block and shattered the screen on my TV. Upside, 8yr old 40" LCD I've been wanting to replace. Downside, just had an unanticipated massive plumbing bill for a new main water line to the house and can't afford to buy a new TV, let alone my "dream" 4k 55" TV I've been eyeing up. Probably another inexpensive 40" LCD to replace it. In a few weeks.

Sigh.

 

[KGB7]

Don't school me as a parent! This is not what this forum is for. I simply wanted to restrict access on a schedule. You don't know my situation and it's not for kids. If you bothered to read my post "FOR EXAMPLE...." just used that as an example of what I want to be able to do. Very disappointed at the attacks when all I was looking for was a technical answer.

Not attacking you dude. Perhaps an actual reason why you need scheduling, would help me in the future to give you proper guidance and a solution.

Having that said. If the router does not have built in scheduling, then we cant help or speak on behalf of Netgear.

Have you reached out to Netgear directly related to your issue with the router?

I suggest you get an older cheap router and install a 3rd party firmware that has exact options that will meet your needs. Perhaps a cheap router won't do the job as you might need the horsepower from the latest router. But unfortunately my hands are tied do to lack of additional information.

 

[Razor512]

you should be able to restrict access if you do it based on IP address, e.g., assign their device a static IP, and then make a schedule (option is generally on (routerIP)/BKS_service.htm



you can simply set it to block all traffic types, and then based on a 24 hour clock, select which times you want the block to take effect.

The main limitation of the blocking is that you can pretty much only have 1 schedule e.g., you cannot have a different schedule for each day of the week, if you want the internet access for a device to stop working at 11PM, then it will do that for every day that you select in the schedule.

other than that, you can schedule access (as long as you assign the device a static IP first)

 

[bobsilver]

I cannot believe that you cannot restrict access for one device on your network based on a schedule? For example you can't limit your kid's tablet to not have internet access based on a schedule. You can only block it completely or allow a device.

Also you cannot turn the guest network on and off via a schedule. You have to log into the router and turn it off and on manually.

For $300+ router lacking these features is ridiculous. I can keep it and big time "hope" they add this feature in a firmware or wait for a third party. Or ditch it? Really like the range and connectivity though.

I am not aware of NETGEAR plans to add this functionality. Its a good suggestion though. On behalf of NETGEAR I will forward your comment to the Product Management team. Ill see if there are any plans to add this but my guess is no at this time.

Bob Silver
NETGEAR Networking Consultant

 

[sfx2000]

Don't school me as a parent! This is not what this forum is for. I simply wanted to restrict access on a schedule. You don't know my situation and it's not for kids. If you bothered to read my post "FOR EXAMPLE...." just used that as an example of what I want to be able to do. Very disappointed at the attacks when all I was looking for was a technical answer.

I think a lot of folks assumed this was for limiting kids use "after hours" - heck I did as well.

Putting forth the use-case will get better feedback and tips from the community.

You've raised a good point - there are some use cases where enabling/disabling Wireless Access is appropriate - an example would be a small coffee shop, where turning off wireless after hours is entirely appropriate, as one might not want folks hanging around in the parking lot using the WiFi for whatever reasons.

As an AP, this isn't really an issue, this is more of the router functionality itself across the wired/wireless interfaces - being able to whitelist some clients can be very useful.