NETGEAR "Stealthily" Releases the Nighthawk X6S R7960P

[kc6108]

The R7960P is now listed on Netgear's website. I was a beta tester for this router.

https://www.netgear.com/home/products/networking/wifi-routers/R7960P.aspx

https://www.netgear.com/support/product/R7960P.aspx

This is a Costco exclusive, and is available for sale on their website right now.

https://www.costco.com/NETGEAR-Nighthawk-X6S-AC3600-Tri-Band-WiFi-Router.product.100484415.html

Highlights off the top of my head:

• Dual-core 1.8GHz processor, with three 800MHz offload processors
• 128 MB Flash & 512 MB RAM
• Circle with Disney
• LAN aggregation (LAN1 & 2 ports)
• WAN aggregation (WAN and LAN4 ports) - aka their "multi-gig" internet speed support
• Dynamic QoS
• Tri-Band, AC3600 (2.4GHz - Up to 600Mbps, 5GHz - Up to 1.3Gbps, and 5GHz - Up to 1.625Gbps)
• MU-MIMO
• Smart Connect (2.4 & 5GHz bands)
• Beamforming+ (aka Implicit & Explicit Beamforming)

kc6108

 

[kc6108]

@thiggins

PM me if you’d like to review this router. I’ll mail mine to you.

 

[kc6108]

Anyone have a Costco account? How much are they listing this router for?

 

[Sizzlechest]

Anyone have a Costco account? How much are they listing this router for?

$199.99

 

[L&LD]

The R7960P is now listed on Netgear's website. I was a beta tester for this router.

https://www.netgear.com/home/products/networking/wifi-routers/R7960P.aspx

https://www.netgear.com/support/product/R7960P.aspx

This is a Costco exclusive, and is available for sale on their website right now.

https://www.costco.com/NETGEAR-Nighthawk-X6S-AC3600-Tri-Band-WiFi-Router.product.100484415.html

Highlights off the top of my head:

• Dual-core 1.8GHz processor, with three 800MHz offload processors
• 128 MB Flash & 512 MB RAM
• Circle with Disney
• LAN aggregation (LAN1 & 2 ports)
• WAN aggregation (WAN and LAN4 ports) - aka their "multi-gig" internet speed support
• Dynamic QoS
• Tri-Band, AC3600 (2.4GHz - Up to 600Mbps, 5GHz - Up to 1.3Gbps, and 5GHz - Up to 1.625Gbps)
• MU-MIMO
• Smart Connect (2.4 & 5GHz bands)
• Beamforming+ (aka Implicit & Explicit Beamforming)

kc6108

Is this router able to do link aggregation on both WAN + LAN then, simultaneously?

 

[kc6108]

Is this router able to do link aggregation on both WAN + LAN then, simultaneously?

Yes

 

[e38BimmerFN]

I love mine. Really hoping NG will fix the NAT Filter OPEN issue though.

 

[e38BimmerFN]

Thats not a bad price for what this router can do.

$199.99

 

[L&LD]

I love mine. Really hoping NG will fix the NAT Filter OPEN issue though.

Do you have a link or further details of what that issue is?

 

[e38BimmerFN]

When NAT Filter is set to OPEN, the NAT test reports Port Address Restricted NAT instead of Full Cone NAT when running this test:
https://badmodems.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=21

Others are reporting this with other R series model routers, 7800, 8000, and 9000 and XR series as of late...

I found this in beta testing the CBK40 and R7960P...They fixed the CBK40 system.

 

[kc6108]

I ran that test on my R9000 running Voxel's latest firmware. FYI, I have the 'NAT Filtering' option set to 'Secured':

Here are the results of the test:

UPnP Test (?): found: R9000 (Gateway)
UPnP Port mapping works



STUN Test (?): Address Restricted Cone NAT



UDP Binding Test (?): Endpoint independent binding, port prediction is easy
TCP Binding Test: Endpoint independent binding, port prediction is easy



UDP Mapping Test (?): your external IP address was different from your local one (NAT).
Your external source ports were preserved on every connection.
TCP Mapping Test: your external IP address was different from your local one (NAT)
Your external source ports were preserved on every connection.



SIP ALG (?): The initial SIP INVITE packet has been modified.
Most probably, your NAT implements a SIP-ALG
FTP ALG: The initial FTP PORT command has been modified.
Most probably, your NAT implements a FTP-ALG



UDP Hole Punching (?): High TTL Test was not successful
Low TTL Test was successful
Silent Test was not successful
TCP Hole Punching: High TTL Test was not successful
Low TTL Test was not successful
Silent Test was not successful



UDP Timeout (?): Your UDP timeout is approx. 60 seconds
Your timeout is greater than 60 seconds. There should be no problems.

 

[kc6108]

Folks wanting to run this test will need to install Waterfox. It's the last browser being actively maintained that still supports Java.

 

[e38BimmerFN]

That is the correct behavior for Secure Nat Filter. What isn't correct behavior is when the router is set for OPEN.

Users can use a old version of FireFox to test with Java as well. v52.9 I believe is the last version of FF. Also IE11 x32 still works.

 

[e38BimmerFN]

Now what are the STUN results when you set your 9000 routers NAT Filter to OPEN?

I ran that test on my R9000 running Voxel's latest firmware. FYI, I have the 'NAT Filtering' option set to 'Secured':

Here are the results of the test:

UPnP Test (?): found: R9000 (Gateway)
UPnP Port mapping works



STUN Test (?): Address Restricted Cone NAT



UDP Binding Test (?): Endpoint independent binding, port prediction is easy
TCP Binding Test: Endpoint independent binding, port prediction is easy



UDP Mapping Test (?): your external IP address was different from your local one (NAT).
Your external source ports were preserved on every connection.
TCP Mapping Test: your external IP address was different from your local one (NAT)
Your external source ports were preserved on every connection.



SIP ALG (?): The initial SIP INVITE packet has been modified.
Most probably, your NAT implements a SIP-ALG
FTP ALG: The initial FTP PORT command has been modified.
Most probably, your NAT implements a FTP-ALG



UDP Hole Punching (?): High TTL Test was not successful
Low TTL Test was successful
Silent Test was not successful
TCP Hole Punching: High TTL Test was not successful
Low TTL Test was not successful
Silent Test was not successful



UDP Timeout (?): Your UDP timeout is approx. 60 seconds
Your timeout is greater than 60 seconds. There should be no problems.

 

[kc6108]

I love mine. Really hoping NG will fix the NAT Filter OPEN issue though.

Have you tested again using the latest firmware (v1.0.1.34) on their support site?

 

[e38BimmerFN]

Not yet. Just saw that this morning. Been waiting for the router release.

Will be curious to know what your results are on the R9000 when set to OPEN...

 

[Gitsum]

Is the user interface any different? Any new useful info like current speeds being used?

 

[e38BimmerFN]

Same UI for the R series.

Current speeds used for?

Is the user interface any different? Any new useful info like current speeds being used?

 

[e38BimmerFN]

Just checked, I already had v34 loaded. I believe that was a Auto update that was applied.
No change to NAT Filter OPEN issue.

Have you tested again using the latest firmware (v1.0.1.34) on their support site?

 

[kc6108]

@e38BimmerFN

As requested, I ran that test again on my R9000 running the same version of Voxel's firmware after switching the 'NAT Filtering' option to 'Open':

Here are the results of the test:

UPnP Test (?): found: R9000 (Gateway)
UPnP Port mapping works



STUN Test (?): Full Cone NAT



UDP Binding Test (?): Endpoint independent binding, port prediction is easy
TCP Binding Test: Endpoint independent binding, port prediction is easy



UDP Mapping Test (?): your external IP address was different from your local one (NAT).
Your external source ports were preserved on every connection.
TCP Mapping Test: your external IP address was different from your local one (NAT)
Your external source ports were preserved on every connection.



SIP ALG (?): The initial SIP INVITE packet has been modified.
Most probably, your NAT implements a SIP-ALG
FTP ALG: The initial FTP PORT command has been modified.
Most probably, your NAT implements a FTP-ALG



UDP Hole Punching (?): High TTL Test was not successful
Low TTL Test was successful
Silent Test was successful
TCP Hole Punching: High TTL Test was not successful
Low TTL Test was not successful
Silent Test was not successful



UDP Timeout (?): Your UDP timeout is approx. 60 seconds
Your timeout is greater than 60 seconds. There should be no problems.