pool.ntp.org time not updating

KenZ71 · Feb 26, 2016

I see similar odd stuff running ddwrt and google dns.

The post above from October makes me think trying my ISP'S dns might help. Would be shocked if Comcast dns works better than google.

L&LD · Feb 27, 2016

Wouldn't really be shocking. Your ISP DNS is many hops closer to you than google (probably) is.

RMerlin · Feb 27, 2016

And it's also location-aware.

Sent from my Nexus 9 using Tapatalk

argeri · Jan 17, 2017

I have the same issue. Did you ever get a solution that worked?

Toddimus said:
Hi there,

Just got a second RT-AC87R that I have configured as a wireless bridge, using 5GHZ radio and "WDS" feature in the wireless settings tab. I will eventually run a hard line between the two routers, but for now, I thought I'd try the wireless "bridge" connection.

I first updated the firmware to Merlin's 378.54_2. Then, set up the wireless bridge stuff. It actually works pretty well! Only issue I'm having is that I get the following two warnings on the Administration/System tab:

* Reminder: The System time zone is different from your locale setting.
* Reminder: The system time has not been synchronized with an NTP server.

I'm in the US and bought the router from my local Best Buy, so I'm assuming it is configured for the US FCC regulations and consequently my "locale" should be set properly. I set the time zone to GMT-8 (Pacific).

EDIT: Also, what's interesting is if I change the time zone to GMT-7 (Mountain), the
"* Reminder: The System time zone is different from your locale setting" goes away, but the not sync'd reminder stays.

The router's timestamps say Dec 31, 2014 with the clock counting time upwards. It doesn't seem to want to update or sync. The router has been up for ~4 hours now without updating its time. I have tried nist.time.gov (same one Windows 7 uses) as well, but this doesn't seem to cause an update either.

I do plan to update to the next version of firmware that includes the new radio drivers. I've had success with 54_2, so I'm sticking with that for now.

I did some searching and didn't come up with anything like this issue. Any ideas? Thanks in advance!

-Todd

Zirescu · Jan 17, 2017

Did you check your DNS settings?

argeri · Jan 17, 2017

It is only on my wds router not my AP router. I am using opendns.

Zirescu · Jan 17, 2017

If it can't resolve the NTP domain name it won't be able to update the time. Could replace the NTP server name with the IP. It's a pool of servers so will probably resolve differently but when I pinged the ntp.pool.org it resolved to: 206.108.0.132

If that doesn't work, something else is going on and would need to see the system log output.

argeri · Jan 17, 2017

Tried it same result - no time update.

System log from fresh reboot:

Jul 31 20:02:29 rc_service: httpd 456:notify_rc reboot
Jul 31 20:02:31 iTunes: daemon is stopped
Jul 31 20:02:31 FTP Server: daemon is stopped
Jul 31 20:02:32 Samba Server: smb daemon is stopped
Jul 31 20:02:32 kernel: gro disabled
Jul 31 20:02:33 Timemachine: daemon is stopped
Jul 31 20:02:33 WEBDAV Server: daemon is stopped
Jul 31 20:02:33 NAT Tunnel: AAE Service is stopped
Jul 31 20:02:33 NAT Tunnel: AAE Service is stopped
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: klogd started: BusyBox v1.20.2 (2017-01-07 19:19:06 EST)
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: Linux version 2.6.36.4brcmarm (merlin@ubuntu-dev) (gcc version 4.5.3 (Buildroot 2012.02) ) #3 SMP PREEMPT Sat Jan 7 19:33:39 EST 2017
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: CPU: ARMv7 Processor [413fc090] revision 0 (ARMv7), cr=10c53c7f
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: CPU: VIPT nonaliasing data cache, VIPT nonaliasing instruction cache
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: Machine: Northstar Prototype
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: Ignoring unrecognised tag 0x00000000
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: Memory policy: ECC disabled, Data cache writealloc
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: Built 1 zonelists in Zone order, mobility grouping on. Total pages: 60416
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: Kernel command line: root=/dev/mtdblock2 console=ttyS0,115200 init=/sbin/preinit earlyprintk debug
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: Memory: 255488k/255488k available, 6656k reserved, 0K highmem
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: Virtual kernel memory layout:
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: vector : 0xffff0000 - 0xffff1000 ( 4 kB)
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: fixmap : 0xfff00000 - 0xfffe0000 ( 896 kB)
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: DMA : 0xf7e00000 - 0xffe00000 ( 128 MB)
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: vmalloc : 0xd0800000 - 0xf0000000 ( 504 MB)
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: lowmem : 0xc0000000 - 0xd0000000 ( 256 MB)
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: modules : 0xbf000000 - 0xc0000000 ( 16 MB)
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: .init : 0xc0008000 - 0xc003d000 ( 212 kB)
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: .text : 0xc003d000 - 0xc03a9000 (3504 kB)
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: .data : 0xc03c0000 - 0xc03e32a0 ( 141 kB)
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: External imprecise Data abort at addr=0x0, fsr=0x1c06 ignored.
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: Mount-cache hash table entries: 512
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: CPU1: Booted secondary processor
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: Found a AMD NAND flash:
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: Total size: 128MB
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: Block size: 128KB
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: Page Size: 2048B
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: OOB Size: 64B
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: Sector size: 512B
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: Spare size: 16B
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: ECC level: 8 (8-bit)
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: Device ID: 0x 1 0xf1 0x80 0x1d 0x 1 0xf1
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: bio: create slab <bio-0> at 0
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: PCI: no core
Jul 31 20:00:14 kernel: PCI: no core
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: PCI: Fixing up bus 0
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: PCI: Fixing up bus 0
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: PCI: Fixing up bus 1
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: PCI: Fixing up bus 0
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: PCI: Fixing up bus 2
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.2
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes)
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: pflash: found no supported devices
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: bcmsflash: found no supported devices
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: Boot partition size = 524288(0x80000)
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: lookup_nflash_rootfs_offset: offset = 0x200000
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: nflash: squash filesystem with lzma found at block 28
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: Creating 4 MTD partitions on "nflash":
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: 0x000000000000-0x000000080000 : "boot"
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: 0x000000080000-0x000000200000 : "nvram"
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: 0x000000200000-0x000004000000 : "linux"
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: 0x00000039d3d8-0x000004000000 : "rootfs"
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: Registering the dns_resolver key type
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: Spare area=64 eccbytes 56, ecc bytes located at:
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: Available 7 bytes at (off,len):
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: (1,1) (16,2) (32,2) (48,2) (0,0) (0,0) (0,0) (0,0)
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: Options: NO_AUTOINCR,NO_READRDY,BBT_SCAN2NDPAGE,
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: Creating 2 MTD partitions on "brcmnand":
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: 0x000004000000-0x000007ec0000 : "brcmnand"
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: 0x000007ec0000-0x000008000000 : "asus"
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: VFS: Mounted root (squashfs filesystem) readonly on device 31:3.
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: cfe_commit: do nothing
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: ctf: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel.
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: et_module_init: passivemode set to 0x0
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: et_module_init: txworkq set to 0x0
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: et_module_init: et_txq_thresh set to 0x400
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: aux0: Broadcom BCM47XX 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet Controller 6.37.14.126 (r561982)
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: eth0: Broadcom BCM47XX 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet Controller 6.37.14.126 (r561982)
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: wl_module_init: passivemode set to 0x0
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: wl_module_init: igs set to 0x0
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: wl_module_init: txworkq set to 0x0
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: eth1: Broadcom BCM4360 802.11 Wireless Controller 6.37.14.126 (r561982)
Jul 31 20:00:15 kernel: eth2: Broadcom BCM4360 802.11 Wireless Controller 6.37.14.126 (r561982)
Jul 31 20:00:16 stop_nat_rules: apply the redirect_rules!
Jul 31 20:00:16 WAN Connection: Ethernet link down.
Jul 31 20:00:20 RT-AC68U: start httpd
Jul 31 20:00:21 disk monitor: be idle
Jul 31 20:00:21 hour monitor: daemon is starting
Jul 31 20:00:21 hour monitor: daemon terminates
Jul 31 20:00:21 kernel: gro enabled with interval 2
Jul 31 20:00:22 Samba Server: daemon is started
Jul 31 20:00:23 jffs2: valid logs(1)
Jul 31 20:00:23 syslog: module ledtrig-usbdev not found in modules.dep
Jul 31 20:00:23 syslog: module leds-usb not found in modules.dep
Jul 31 20:00:23 kernel: SCSI subsystem initialized
Jul 31 20:00:23 kernel: csw_retry 100
Jul 31 20:00:24 kernel: xhci_hcd 0000:00:0c.0: Failed to enable MSI-X
Jul 31 20:00:24 kernel: xhci_hcd 0000:00:0c.0: failed to allocate MSI entry
Jul 31 20:00:24 kernel: usb usb1: No SuperSpeed endpoint companion for config 1 interface 0 altsetting 0 ep 129: using minimum values
Jul 31 20:00:26 WAN Connection: WAN was exceptionally disconnected.

Zirescu said:
If it can't resolve the NTP domain name it won't be able to update the time. Could replace the NTP server name with the IP. It's a pool of servers so will probably resolve differently but when I pinged the ntp.pool.org it resolved to: 206.108.0.132

If that doesn't work, something else is going on and would need to see the system log output.

sfx2000 · Jan 17, 2017

FWIW - should be able to run the following...

Code:

$ ntpq -p
    remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
==============================================================================
+195.21.137.209  193.62.22.74     2 u  338 1024  377   88.208    5.891   0.819
+srv2.us.inu.io  108.61.56.35     3 u  421 1024  377   61.902    6.816   0.903
-leeloo.scurvyne 128.4.1.1        4 u  409 1024  377   90.009    6.832   1.900
*biisoni.miuku.n 204.123.2.72     2 u  494 1024  377   20.656    1.547   5.593

This is a working ntp setup...

Check the config and the hosts within.... review the ntp.conf file, which is usually located in the etc directory off the main - (obtuse working here to keep the cloudflare protection from flaring up)

Code:

# pool.ntp.org maps to about 1000 low-stratum NTP servers.  Your server will
# pick a different set every time it starts up.  Please consider joining the
# pool: <http://www.pool.ntp.org/join.html>
server 0.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
server 1.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
server 2.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
server 3.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst

These all work - hope this help...

argeri · Jan 17, 2017

Not sure how to do this. From putty?

sfx2000 said:

FWIW - should be able to run the following...

Code:

$ ntpq -p
    remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
==============================================================================
+195.21.137.209  193.62.22.74     2 u  338 1024  377   88.208    5.891   0.819
+srv2.us.inu.io  108.61.56.35     3 u  421 1024  377   61.902    6.816   0.903
-leeloo.scurvyne 128.4.1.1        4 u  409 1024  377   90.009    6.832   1.900
*biisoni.miuku.n 204.123.2.72     2 u  494 1024  377   20.656    1.547   5.593

This is a working ntp setup...

Check the config and the hosts within.... review the ntp.conf file, which is usually located in the etc directory off the main - (obtuse working here to keep the cloudflare protection from flaring up)

Code:

# pool.ntp.org maps to about 1000 low-stratum NTP servers.  Your server will
# pick a different set every time it starts up.  Please consider joining the
# pool: <http://www.pool.ntp.org/join.html>
server 0.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
server 1.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
server 2.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
server 3.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst

These all work - hope this help...

sfx2000 · Jan 17, 2017

argeri said:
Not sure how to do this. From putty?

Most likely yes - but there's the caveat that digging into the inside, one must have a sense of what one is doing...

Might consider going back to factory firmware and hit the big reset button if you're not comfortable with things like ssh, putty, and editing files inside...

Zirescu · Jan 17, 2017

Don't think ntpq is in the default install, likely that got include with the NTP Daemon setup from @kvic

Zirescu · Jan 17, 2017

argeri said:
Tried it same result - no time update.

Are you able to ping the name or the IP address of the ntp server?

kvic · Jan 17, 2017

The "ntp" in ASUSWRT is not a real NTP Daemon. The "ntp" in ASUSWRT is a fat and dumb tailor-make task scheduler that always resides in RAM and calls "/usr/sbin/ntpclient" twice per day to synchronise the time.

So troubleshooting shall probably begin from such a background...

argeri · Jan 22, 2017

No it returns "Network is unreachable"

I can successfully ping my AP router from the WDS Bridge router (the one that doesn't update NTP).

Zirescu said:
Are you able to ping the name or the IP address of the ntp server?

Zirescu · Jan 23, 2017

Ok, than your device isn't routing to the Internet. Should check that the gateway is set correctly.

argeri · Jan 23, 2017

Tried during this via the UI with no luck. Any suggestions as to where this needs to be entered or how to do it via the command line.

Zirescu said:
Ok, than your device isn't routing to the Internet. Should check that the gateway is set correctly.

raylock · Feb 24, 2017

Has anybody found a solution to this problem? I have exactly the same issue and suspect that the failure of my VPN client to find an Internet address may be related

Fitz Mutch · Feb 24, 2017

raylock said:
Has anybody found a solution to this problem?

If you have a computer on your LAN that's always on, you can turn on its NTP server. Now have the router sync its clock with this computer, on your local network. No Internet connection is required for time synchronization. Here's an example for a Windows box that's always on.
https://www.snbforums.com/threads/yet-another-way-to-sync-your-routers-clock.37439/

Thread starter	Title	Forum	Replies	Date
H	DHCP server change Pool Starting Address	Asuswrt-Merlin	4	Sep 17, 2024
	Fixed: Reminder: The system time has not been synchronized with an NTP server.	Asuswrt-Merlin	0	Sep 8, 2024
M	Afraid.org DDNS Down?	Asuswrt-Merlin	4	Mar 8, 2024

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