Qos control over Steam Downloads

[fafot]

I am wondering how I can have control over downloads from Steam. Even that my son PC is on Low priority using the traditional type QoS, when he downloads from Steam - he still has the highest priority and nobody can watch Hulu or surf the web properly.
I have the RT-AC87U router running Merlin 378.53.

 

[Blinkyz]

You got something in the settings of STEAM to limit the download bandwith , by default its set to Unlimited.
He will not be affected when playing games

 

[Gitsum]

I would try the adaptive QOS and set streaming to the top priority.

 

[fafot]

I would try the adaptive QOS and set streaming to the top priority.

Well, that is fine but I want to have more control over some PC's. For example Youtube, Netflix and Hulu will have the same priority in the adaptive QoS streaming and I want Apple TV to have higher priority than any PC that is streaming any content including Hulu or Netflix. In the Adaptive QoS I will not be able to do this as far as I understand.

 

[fafot]

You got something in the settings of STEAM to limit the download bandwith , by default its set to Unlimited.
He will not be affected when playing games

I set lower limit as you suggested but I am still wondering if there is a better solution.

 

[Nullity]

The QoS in AsusWRT seems to be spotty.

I would use something like IPFire or pfSense as your router. Those distributions have established traffic-shaping/QoS setups.

Or there's always DD-WRT or tomato.

 

[vanic]

http://www.snbforums.com/threads/asus-rt-ac68u-ac87u-3-0-0-4_378_7177-official-beta-firmware.25777/
you can use the bandwidth limiter in asuswrt

 

[fafot]

Nulity & vanic - thank you.
I am going to look at the suggestions.

In regards to bandwidth limiter - it does not works properly.

 

[RMerlin]

In regards to bandwidth limiter - it does not works properly.

Can you provide more details? It does not work at all, or does not seem to limit to the correct values? How did you test it (was it something TCP-based like http/ftp, or UDP-based like a torrent)?

 

[fafot]

Can you provide more details? It does not work at all, or does not seem to limit to the correct values? How did you test it (was it something TCP-based like http/ftp, or UDP-based like a torrent)?

It does not limit the downloads that my son is doing on Steam. As far as I know the Steam downloads ports are TCP 27014 to 27050 inclusive so I put them on Lowest priority in Traditional QoS. Still Apple TV that is set on High priority could not get enough bandwidth while my son was using nearly 100%. After I stop his download Apple TV and other PC's on the spot received the bandwidth. Nobody was even able to browse the web while Steam download was going on. (All other PC's are on High and Medium priority).
I have the RT-AC87U router running Merlin 378.53.

 

[vanic]

To Merlin:
I think that GUI doesn't finish, no more option can setup here.

To fatot

It does not limit the downloads that my son is doing on Steam. As far as I know the Steam downloads ports are TCP 27014 to 27050 inclusive so I put them on Lowest priority in Traditional QoS. Still Apple TV that is set on High priority could not get enough bandwidth while my son was using nearly 100%. After I stop his download Apple TV and other PC's on the spot received the bandwidth. Nobody was even able to browse the web while Steam download was going on. (All other PC's are on High and Medium priority).
I have the RT-AC87U router running Merlin 378.53.

what you use is traditional qos, you can wait for new feature [bandwidth limiter] of asuswrt official firmware.

 

[RMerlin]

It does not limit the downloads that my son is doing on Steam. As far as I know the Steam downloads ports are TCP 27014 to 27050 inclusive so I put them on Lowest priority in Traditional QoS. Still Apple TV that is set on High priority could not get enough bandwidth while my son was using nearly 100%. After I stop his download Apple TV and other PC's on the spot received the bandwidth. Nobody was even able to browse the web while Steam download was going on. (All other PC's are on High and Medium priority).
I have the RT-AC87U router running Merlin 378.53.

Traditionnal QoS is not a bandwidth limiter. Vanic and I are talking about the new Bandwidth Limiter that appeared in Asus's beta 7117 firmware.

 

[fafot]

Thank you both Marlin and Vanic. I will wait until the new feature will be enabled.
Nulity:
In regards to

The QoS in AsusWRT seems to be spotty.

I would use something like IPFire or pfSense as your router. Those distributions have established traffic-shaping/QoS setups.

Or there's always DD-WRT or tomato.

It looks good but it is expensive and I just bought the RT-AC87U router so as I said before I will wait and see how the new Bandwidth Limiter will work when it will be enabled in Marlin firmware.

 

[fafot]

Traditionnal QoS is not a bandwidth limiter. Vanic and I are talking about the new Bandwidth Limiter that appeared in Asus's beta 7117 firmware.

This is copied from the router QoS page:

Traditional QoS ensures inbound and outbound bandwidth on both wired and wireless connections for prioritized applications and tasks via manual user-defined parameters.

So in this case what the traditional QoS does at all?

 

[RMerlin]

This is copied from the router QoS page:

So in this case what the traditional QoS does at all?

"Ensures" means it dynamically balances things out. It's not a hard set limit. If you have a low priority rule set to 10% and there is no other traffic with a higher priority, QoS will allocate 100% of the available traffic to that low priority rule.

That's where QoS does not equal bandwidth limiter. Two different concepts.

 

[fafot]

"Ensures" means it dynamically balances things out. It's not a hard set limit. If you have a low priority rule set to 10% and there is no other traffic with a higher priority, QoS will allocate 100% of the available traffic to that low priority rule.

That's where QoS does not equal bandwidth limiter. Two different concepts.

This is great but unfortunately it does not work. It is actually very good that when there is no other traffic with higher priority the QoS will allocate 100% to this low priority program/PC... BUT the problem is that while there is a PC that is allocated highest priority the lowest priority PC/program uses all the bandwidth available! This is what I am complaining about.