Looking for Access Point That I can Put on Closets

[ChaoscripT]

The roaming will work even between different brand stand-alone APs, but without roaming assist technologies offered by network controllers. As I said the client decides where to connect and the decision to switch APs is based on specific criteria. All you can do on a stand-alone AP is set minimum RSSI level and the AP will attempt to disconnect the client below the threshold.

What I meant to, is there are access points that can be stand alone but talks with their friends, with built in controller like my Aruba.
But Unify/Ubiquity doesn't support it when you make it stand alone.

What are you trying to improve then? This is a very good signal. At least to where the PC is located.

It's not something that I want to improve as I don't know what the result if I were installed the AP like it should be (on ceiling or wall instead of on desktop)

 

[Tech9]

You already have good signal from the existing AP and from its current position.

 

[Digilog]

I already have Aruba AP22, but the aruba and also the APs that you gave, in their technical sheet not wrote that I can put them "regular" only on ceiling or wall.

Since the vents in the front its going to vent. But in general anything that is rated to go on the ceiling can go anywhere because that is what is called "the hot zone" of the room where heat hangs and is where the least ventilation is in a room.

The antennas deployed are omnidirectional, and there is no polarized transmission so any antenna orientation works.

The eero access points are another low cost AP.

 

[degrub]

What I meant to, is there are access points that can be stand alone but talks with their friends, with built in controller like my Aruba.
But Unify/Ubiquity doesn't support it when you make it stand alone.



It's not something that I want to improve as I don't know what the result if I were installed the AP like it should be (on ceiling or wall instead of on desktop)

CISCO 150AX have built in controller.

 

[ChaoscripT]

Since the vents in the front its going to vent. But in general anything that is rated to go on the ceiling can go anywhere because that is what is called "the hot zone" of the room where heat hangs and is where the least ventilation is in a room.

The antennas deployed are omnidirectional, and there is no polarized transmission so any antenna orientation works.

The eero access points are another low cost AP.

I assume that there are many routers that I make them "access point" instead of router,
but I already implement switch with PoE+ so I prefer to use it and save some "cables".

CISCO 150AX have built in controller.

Yeah I know,
Cisco 150AX and Aruba AP22 they are the last ones in my competition before I buy, but for some reason I saw that Cisco 150AX is end stock at some store so I thought maybe the importer don't bring anymore this model so I choose at the end Aruba AP22.
But, both not "support" (according to their technical guide) to be on desktop, prefer on wall or on ceiling.
Now, as I wrote, currently my PC got according to WIFI Analyzer windows software, my 5 Ghz network have -57 dBm, and my 2.4 Ghz network have -54 dBm.
I can't know it if I don't check it but I'm interested to know if I put Unifi U6 (that suppose to be on Desktop), my dBm will be better?

 

[Tech9]

I'm interested to know if I put Unifi U6 (that suppose to be on Desktop), my dBm will be better?

Aruba P22:
2.4GHz, 2x2, 21dBm, 4.3dBi antenna
5GHz, 2x2, 21dBm, 5.6 dBi antenna

U6 Mesh:
2.4GHz, 2x2, 22dBm, 3dBi antenna
5GHz, 4x4, 26dBm, 5dBi antenna

As per specs at max Tx power U6 Mesh will give you stronger signal on 5GHz with potentially wider range.

 

[degrub]

Yes, as always, the client Tx / antenna sensitivity is likely the limiting factor between the two devices.

 

[Tech9]

U6 Mesh at maximum power has similar range to Asus RT-AX86U (Pro) router, if this comparison helps.

 

[Digilog]

I assume that there are many routers that I make them "access point" instead of router,
but I already implement switch with PoE+ so I prefer to use it and save some "cables".

There are a few POE routers and access points out there.
Even though I don't like some TP link products, the TP-link deco would fit. But I wouldn't put their routers in "hot" or poor ventilated areas because their routers overheat. But since its out in the open its no big deal.

 

[ddaenen1]

But, both not "support" (according to their technical guide) to be on desktop, prefer on wall or on ceiling.
Now, as I wrote, currently my PC got according to WIFI Analyzer windows software, my 5 Ghz network have -57 dBm, and my 2.4 Ghz network have -54 dBm.
I can't know it if I don't check it but I'm interested to know if I put Unifi U6 (that suppose to be on Desktop), my dBm will be better?

The whole "wall/ceiling" mounting thing is really not so relevant in the discussion. Only one out of 3 AP's i have in my network is wall mounted. The others are just desktop without any issue.

 

[Tech9]

I know from previous conversations with @ChaoscripT that their local Wi-Fi environment is challenging. Very likely worse than most around can imagine. Perhaps better APs will make a difference, perhaps every 1dBm better signal counts.

 

[tgl]

You can mount a "ceiling" AP in any orientation you want; nobody is going to come and slap your wrist. You do want to make sure there's reasonable airflow around it, but it's unlikely that setting it on a desk is any worse for that than attaching it to a ceiling.

What you do need to pay attention to is that a ceiling AP's radiation pattern is almost certainly not omnidirectional: it will be optimized for clients that are "in front" of it (below it in a normal ceiling mounting). A client that is right beside it on the desk will probably not be getting the best possible signal --- although it'll be so close that that may not matter. But if you have clients that are level with it and further away, that won't be so great. Wall mounting works better in many cases.

 

[Tech9]

What you do need to pay attention to is that a ceiling AP's radiation pattern is almost certainly not omnidirectional

As RF design - most are, actually. What makes them more directional is a mechanical part - the metal mounting plate.

One of the best performing APs in tough Wi-Fi environments with lots of obstructions and reflections is Ruckus with their BeamFlex technology using antenna arrays for client independent hardware beamforming. Unfortunately, the price is way too high for home applications.