It looks like you are not using chrony. You are not using any of these servers. Instead of ^- you should see ^* and ^+.
Did you switch the timeserver to chronyd in the spdMerlin script?
ntpMerlin ntpMerlin v3.x
- Thread starter Jack Yaz
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Did you switch the timeserver to chronyd in the spdMerlin script?
presuming you meant ntpmerlin, yes cronyd is selected as the timeserver.
Jack Yaz
Part of the Furniture
Need to see what you've set for servers in the config file
Done, thanks once again Jack! This is the problem when a novice tries to explore editing code haha..
I'd tried to get servers closer to my location to improve, once the ntp settles down, is there any other improvement to be done?
Code:
admin86@RT-AX86U-0468:/tmp/home/root# chronyc tracking
Reference ID : 11FD22FB (uklon5-ntp-004.aaplimg.com)
Stratum : 2
Ref time (UTC) : Mon Feb 08 19:06:53 2021
System time : 0.007007496 seconds slow of NTP time
Last offset : -0.004951078 seconds
RMS offset : 0.004951078 seconds
Frequency : 6.285 ppm slow
Residual freq : -5.871 ppm
Skew : 0.080 ppm
Root delay : 0.016525188 seconds
Root dispersion : 0.003594300 seconds
Update interval : 64.4 seconds
Leap status : Normal
Code:
admin86@RT-AX86U-0468:/tmp/home/root# chronyc -n sources
MS Name/IP address Stratum Poll Reach LastRx Last sample
===============================================================================
^* 17.253.34.251 1 6 3 63 -10ms[ -15ms] +/- 9296us
^+ 17.253.34.125 1 6 7 1 -11ms[ -11ms] +/- 9357us
^x 17.253.34.123 1 6 3 64 -14ms[ -19ms] +/- 12ms
^? 17.253.108.253 1 6 3 64 -10ms[ -15ms] +/- 14ms
^+ 216.239.35.4 1 6 3 64 -11ms[ -16ms] +/- 13ms
^+ 216.239.35.12 1 6 7 2 -10ms[ -10ms] +/- 14ms
^+ 216.239.35.0 1 6 3 63 -10ms[ -10ms] +/- 12ms
^+ 216.239.35.8 1 6 7 1 -10ms[ -10ms] +/- 13ms
^? 85.199.214.102 1 7 110 120 -11ms[ -15ms] +/- 11ms
^- 188.114.116.1 2 6 133 53 -12ms[ -12ms] +/- 37ms
^- 213.199.225.40 2 6 55 117 -11ms[ -16ms] +/- 56ms
^- 162.159.200.123 3 6 37 57 -13ms[ -13ms] +/- 18ms
^- 193.150.34.2 3 6 37 58 -8999us[-8999us] +/- 47ms
^- 95.215.175.2 2 6 37 55 -11ms[ -11ms] +/- 21ms
^+ 162.159.200.1 3 6 37 58 -9460us[-9460us] +/- 16ms
^- 81.21.65.169 2 6 153 52 -16ms[ -16ms] +/- 77ms
This is how it's looking now. Offset is between +/- 0.4ms, as opposed to the old values of +/- 1.2ms...
Open to any suggestions on improvement!
I know someone else has mentioned it previously and it may be entirely a co-incidence, but I did some gaming last night after making the changes and the performance of the internet (for gaming) seemed noticeably punchy..
Code:
MS Name/IP address Stratum Poll Reach LastRx Last sample
===============================================================================
^+ uklon5-ntp-004.aaplimg.c> 1 10 377 805 -113us[ -76us] +/- 9116us
^+ ntp.euro.apple.com 1 10 377 764 -4164us[-4128us] +/- 13ms
^* uklon5-ntp-003.aaplimg.c> 1 10 377 113 +238us[ +272us] +/- 8564us
^+ frcch1-ntp-002.aaplimg.c> 1 10 373 781 -1333us[-1297us] +/- 14ms
^+ time2.google.com 1 10 377 587 -1130us[-1094us] +/- 13ms
^+ time4.google.com 1 10 377 793 -159us[ -123us] +/- 14ms
^+ time1.google.com 1 10 377 482 -3954us[-3919us] +/- 17ms
^+ time3.google.com 1 10 377 537 -442us[ -407us] +/- 12ms
^- 195.219.205.9 2 10 377 778 -2714us[-2678us] +/- 76ms
^- ntp3.wirehive.net 2 10 357 6 -1154us[-1154us] +/- 38ms
^- ntp2.tktelekom.pl 2 10 177 371 -4252us[-4217us] +/- 44ms
^+ time.cloudflare.com 3 10 377 931 -1507us[-1470us] +/- 17ms
^- time.rdg.uk.as44574.net 3 10 377 928 -45us[-8216ns] +/- 48ms
^+ time.shf.uk.as44574.net 2 10 377 0 -858us[ -858us] +/- 20ms
^+ time.cloudflare.com 3 10 377 22m -971us[-1178us] +/- 16ms
^- ns4.turbodns.co.uk 2 10 357 872 -281us[ -245us] +/- 70ms
admin86@RT-AX86U-0468:/tmp/home/root# chronyc tracking
Reference ID : 11FD227B (uklon5-ntp-003.aaplimg.com)
Stratum : 2
Ref time (UTC) : Tue Feb 09 12:35:30 2021
System time : 0.000284057 seconds slow of NTP time
Last offset : +0.000034129 seconds
RMS offset : 0.000203031 seconds
Frequency : 5.904 ppm slow
Residual freq : -0.001 ppm
Skew : 0.022 ppm
Root delay : 0.016697720 seconds
Root dispersion : 0.000547038 seconds
Update interval : 1029.0 seconds
Leap status : Normal
heysoundude
Part of the Furniture
ok, lets take a step back here for a second: 0.4 ms is four ten thousandths of a second, and the 6-ish ppm drift means 6 pulses per million.
That makes the crystal chip/clock in your router pretty damned good, and fairly stable.
because it is stable, and only needs slight occasional correction, the data mechanisms of the router don't need to be manipulated as much to keep data flowing at the best speed - that manipulation and error correction slows things down, as you can now see from the gaming experience you've described
in a speedtest, has your connection speed improved? that's not what matters - user experience has improved probably exponentially compared to whatever amount throughput capability has.
Had another few tweaks with the NTP addresses to try and improve further.
Yes, I've noticed speed test output has increased ever so slightly.
I'm going to see how it goes tonight with some more gaming to see if it wasn't just a co-incidence!
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Code:
Reference ID : 11FD22FB (uklon5-ntp-004.aaplimg.com)
Stratum : 2
Ref time (UTC) : Tue Feb 09 17:44:01 2021
System time : 0.000535446 seconds slow of NTP time
Last offset : -0.000208381 seconds
RMS offset : 0.000256092 seconds
Frequency : 6.108 ppm slow
Residual freq : -0.006 ppm
Skew : 0.128 ppm
Root delay : 0.016824678 seconds
Root dispersion : 0.001842577 seconds
Update interval : 1025.4 seconds
Leap status : Normal
admin86@RT-AX86U-0468:/tmp/home/root# chronyc sources
MS Name/IP address Stratum Poll Reach LastRx Last sample
===============================================================================
^+ uklon5-ntp-003.aaplimg.c> 1 10 377 158 -1812us[-1812us] +/- 9397us
^* uklon5-ntp-004.aaplimg.c> 1 10 377 308 -3431us[-3639us] +/- 11ms
^+ frcch1-ntp-001.aaplimg.c> 1 10 105 691 -464us[ -656us] +/- 13ms
^+ ntp.euro.apple.com 1 10 377 935 -4177us[-4357us] +/- 13ms
^+ time1.google.com 1 10 377 28 -924us[ -924us] +/- 12ms
^+ time4.google.com 1 9 377 419 -849us[-1052us] +/- 15ms
^+ time3.google.com 1 10 377 746 -1815us[-2004us] +/- 13ms
^+ time2.google.com 1 10 377 294 -1466us[-1466us] +/- 12ms
^- swale.mc.man.ac.uk 2 9 377 283 -5376us[-5376us] +/- 57ms
^+ 194.80.204.184 1 10 377 474 -829us[-1030us] +/- 16ms
^- penkett.anduin.org.uk 2 10 377 86 -198us[ -198us] +/- 43ms
^? 85.199.214.98 1 10 1 24m -69ms[ -70ms] +/- 80ms
^- server1.quickdrivingtest> 1 10 201 552 -5863us[-6060us] +/- 16msheysoundude
Part of the Furniture
If you really want to be SUPER tight - look into your poll times. 2^10 is 1024 secs, about 17 mins.
If you adjust polling to 6, your router will ping the reference servers every 64 sec and adjust accordingly
that'll tighten things up significantly on your network...a lot can happen in a million or so nanoseconds ;-p
If you adjust polling to 6, your router will ping the reference servers every 64 sec and adjust accordingly
that'll tighten things up significantly on your network...a lot can happen in a million or so nanoseconds ;-p
I'm new to all this as well and I've currently setup chronyc. Does this look good on my end:
Code:
/tmp/home/root# chronyc tracking
Reference ID : 81861C7B (time1.facebook.com)
Stratum : 2
Ref time (UTC) : Tue Feb 09 18:02:30 2021
System time : 0.001078921 seconds slow of NTP time
Last offset : -0.001428494 seconds
RMS offset : 0.000795097 seconds
Frequency : 1.008 ppm fast
Residual freq : -0.304 ppm
Skew : 0.629 ppm
Root delay : 0.029739285 seconds
Root dispersion : 0.001674269 seconds
Update interval : 1035.9 seconds
Leap status : Normal
Code:
:/tmp/home/root# chronyc -n sources
MS Name/IP address Stratum Poll Reach LastRx Last sample
===============================================================================
^- 71.19.144.140 2 10 377 166 -3106us[-3106us] +/- 75ms
^+ 138.236.128.36 2 10 377 70 -7955us[-7955us] +/- 39ms
^+ 172.86.181.78 2 10 377 575 +704us[ +704us] +/- 39ms
^- 23.157.160.168 2 10 377 56 -933us[ -933us] +/- 51ms
^+ 216.218.254.202 1 10 357 439 -3150us[-3150us] +/- 44ms
^- 173.0.48.220 2 10 377 146 -27ms[ -27ms] +/- 104ms
^+ 104.194.242.237 2 9 377 29 +755us[ +755us] +/- 39ms
^- 73.239.136.185 3 10 377 634 -1684us[-1684us] +/- 63ms
^* 129.134.28.123 1 10 377 779 +523us[ -905us] +/- 15ms
^- 147.251.48.140 2 10 377 259 -53us[ -53us] +/- 95ms
^- 212.83.158.83 2 10 377 615 -3332us[-3332us] +/- 56ms
^- 95.216.147.242 2 10 377 644 -3845us[-3845us] +/- 110ms
^- 176.9.157.155 2 10 377 620 -3368us[-3368us] +/- 95msI'm fairly new to it all too and just trying trial and error to find what works best. It looks good to me, but I'm not sure how many of those servers are fairly local.
Code:
pool time.apple.com
pool time.google.com
!server 0.uk.pool.ntp.org iburst
!server 1.uk.pool.ntp.org iburst
!server 2.uk.pool.ntp.org iburst
!server 3.uk.pool.ntp.org iburst
server chronos.csr.net iburst
server ntp2d.mcc.ac.uk iburst
server ntp1.speedwelshpool.com iburst
server ntp0.uos.ac.uk iburst
server ntp1.anduin.org.uk iburst
server ntp5.leontp.com iburst
server ntp.shr.ug iburst
server ntp6.leontp.com iburstThat's my server list in my config file and gives me 11x stratum 1 NTP Servers. I've checked UK servers database to decide on those, plus the pool options of apple and google NTP Servers..
The poll times start off around 6 but then seem to drift to 10, is there somewhere I can edit this?
D
Deleted member 62525
Guest
I get the following errors during restart.
14:14:46 ntpMerlin: Restarting chronyd...
Feb 9 14:14:46 timeserverd: Waiting for NTP to sync before starting...
Feb 9 14:14:46 chronyd[31467]: chronyd version 4.0 starting (+CMDMON +NTP +REFCLOCK -RTC +PRIVDROP -SCFILTER -SIGND +ASYNCDNS -NTS -SECHASH +IPV6 -DEBUG)
Feb 9 14:14:46 chronyd[31467]: Fatal error : Another chronyd may already be running (pid=3145), check /opt/var/run/chrony/chronyd.pid
The only way I can fix it is hard reboot. Is there a way manually I can stop and then start chronyd ?
14:14:46 ntpMerlin: Restarting chronyd...
Feb 9 14:14:46 timeserverd: Waiting for NTP to sync before starting...
Feb 9 14:14:46 chronyd[31467]: chronyd version 4.0 starting (+CMDMON +NTP +REFCLOCK -RTC +PRIVDROP -SCFILTER -SIGND +ASYNCDNS -NTS -SECHASH +IPV6 -DEBUG)
Feb 9 14:14:46 chronyd[31467]: Fatal error : Another chronyd may already be running (pid=3145), check /opt/var/run/chrony/chronyd.pid
The only way I can fix it is hard reboot. Is there a way manually I can stop and then start chronyd ?
I had a similar issue today after updating the latest ntpmerlin through amtm. Really weird and the problem persisted after a full uninstall and reinstall of ntpmerlin. I actually can't get ntpmerlin to work at all right now and had to entirely remove. Basically after every reboot ntpd wasn't syncing until I manually restarted the ntpd service, then all was fine. This was reproducible upon every reboot with my setup. I've been using ntpmerlin without issue for a long time really strange. Figured I'd keep uninstalled for now and give it another go after the next firmware release. Observed the same issue when configured for chronyd or ntpd.
AX86U latest merlin release.
Jack Yaz
Part of the Furniture
unrelated to ntpmerlin. ntpd/chronyd from ntpmerlin do not start until the firmware's built-in ntpd has synced. if this isn't syncing, then ntpmerlin wont start. you could try this: http://www.snbforums.com/threads/mounting-issues-with-add-ons.69807/post-658338
Jack Yaz
Part of the Furniture
/opt/etc/init.d/S77chronyd stop
D
Deleted member 62525
Guest
I managed to manually do the restart. Run /opt/etc/init.d/S77chronyd (stop | start). This produced no errors and restarted just fine.
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